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	<itunes:summary>Packet Pushers is about Data Networking - routing, switching, firewalls, security and much more. We talk nerdy on highly technical topics such as routing protocols, switch architecture, network designs, vendors, and much more. Our motto is "Too Much Networking Would Never Be Enough"</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 147 – Avaya Fabric Connect Makes Multicast Simple (Really) – Sponsored</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 16:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For many network engineers, IP multicast routing is evil. Difficult to design, complicated to implement, painful to troubleshoot and challenging to scale, multicast routing is rarely implemented on a given network unless it&amp;#8217;s absolutely required. Most engineers would just rather not bother until the issue is forced upon them. Blame PIM. Blame RPF checks. Blame [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/gBah2cPhxNY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>avaya fabric connect,multicast routing,paul unbehagen,shortest path bridging</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>For many network engineers, IP multicast routing is evil. Difficult to design, complicated to implement, painful to troubleshoot and challenging to scale, multicast routing is rarely implemented on a given network unless it's absolutely required.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>For many network engineers, IP multicast routing is evil. Difficult to design, complicated to implement, painful to troubleshoot and challenging to scale, multicast routing is rarely implemented on a given network unless it's absolutely required. Most engineers would just rather not bother until the issue is forced upon them. Blame PIM. Blame RPF checks. Blame redundant rendezvous points. Blame inscrutable mroute tables. Blame whatever you like, but then realize that more and more often, multicast routing is as an actual need for production networks. Take VXLAN - it needs multicast routing, at least when implemented according to the spec. Or Cisco's OTV - in its first iteration, it required multicast routing. And of course, there are lots and lots of applications that require multicast routing so that destinations can receive multicast streams from hops-away sources.

Legitimate use cases haven't made multicast routing any less of a pain in the backside to implement, and Avaya has put together an interesting solution to address this concern. With Fabric Connect (Avaya's SPB implementation), deploying multicast routing is a whole lot simpler than what network engineers are used to.

Chief Architect for Avaya Networking Paul Unbehagen and Darren Giacomini, Network Architect for Schneider Electric's Pelco division, join the Packet Pushers to talk through how multicast routing over Fabric Connect works. Paul is a big part of the standardization process for SPB - he knows SPB inside and out. Darren is an Avaya customer who uses Fabric Connect to scale massive multicast IP surveillance networks. Yeah, it's an Avaya-sponsored podcast, but it's not simply marketing blah-blah. This is a technical conversation with two people very close to the technology. We keep it nerdy. You'll learn something about multicast routing, and you'll learn something about shortest path bridging.

Enjoy.
LINKS
Show 44 – The Case for Shortest Path Bridging | packetpushers.net

Show 136: Avaya – Considerations for Turning Your Network Into an Ethernet Fabric – Sponsored | packetpushers.net

Avaya IP Multicast for the Cloud | youtube.com

The New World of IP Multicasting | avaya.com

 </itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>38:41</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 146 – Arista 7500 – One Switch to Rule Them All – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/PbwUjT8HCZA/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 22:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arista is shipping a serious round of upgrades for the 7500 switch chassis. In this sponsored podcast, Doug Gourlay from Arista returns to the Packet Pushers to give an unvarnished view of the new products and why Arista can deliver 100GbE at a new price point while maintaining technical features and capabilities. Show Topics: 1) It&amp;#8217;s [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/PbwUjT8HCZA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>arista,sponsored</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Arista is shipping a serious round of upgrades for the 7500 switch chassis. In this sponsored podcast, Doug Gourlay from Arista returns to the Packet Pushers to give an unvarnished view of the new products and why Arista can deliver 100GbE at a new pr...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Arista is shipping a serious round of upgrades for the 7500 switch chassis. In this sponsored podcast, Doug Gourlay from Arista returns
to the Packet Pushers to give an unvarnished view of the new products and why Arista can deliver 100GbE at a new price point while maintaining technical features and capabilities.
Show Topics:
1) It's big… and dense…  and power efficient...
2) The 7500 is really fast and wire speed forwarding and needs just 11RU of space in the rack.
3) How did Arista scale the control plane ?
4)  Martin Hull - Systems Engineering Manager talks about the need for buffering in the spine
5) Economics of 100GbE versus 40GbE and 10GbE  - why is 100Gb cheaper…
6) How this changes network architectures - what we are likely to see from network architects as they use this product ?
7) It is real -  it is not "slideware", it's orderable today, it's running on customer sites today and shipping in "weeks" (not months).
Speed and Feeds
The Arista 7500E offers 1,152 10GbE, 288 40GbE, or 96 100GbE wire-speed ports, making the Arista 7500E the fastest and most scalable data center Ethernet switch in the industry. The key improvements of the Arista 7500E compared to the first generation Arista 7500 are as follows:

	Three times the fabric bandwidth at 30 Terabits per second
	Three times the packet buffer at 144 Gigabyte per switch
	Three times the control plane performance
	Triple the power efficiency at less than 4 watts per 10GbE port
	The industry’s first triple-speed 10/40/100GbE line card
	Much larger L2 and L3 Table Sizes
	Wirespeed VXLAN capability on every port

The Arista 7500E includes four new line cards for 10/40/100 Gigabit Ethernet switching, including an industry-first triple-speed 10/40/100G line card with integrated MXP (multi-speed-port) optics that can be software configured on a per port basis delivering constant price-per-bandwidth at every port speed. In 100GbE mode the triple-speed line card offers an order-of-magnitude cost reduction over competing 100Gb Ethernet switch products in the market.
Arista EOS Software
The Arista 7500E together with Arista EOS, delivers a set of advanced Software Defined Networking capabilities that support programmatic control, enhanced monitoring, and self-healing resilience to every aspect of the switch, including the following:

	Wirespeed VXLAN gateways that enable multi-tenant network virtualization
	Precise advanced traffic monitoring with Arista LANZ, DANZ and Tap Aggregation
	Rapid Automated Indication of Link-Loss (RAIL) for accelerated convergence in Big Data analytics and Hadoop applications
	VM Tracer for network wide workload mobility and virtualization in VMware and OpenStack clouds
	Distributed system health monitoring with real-time Health Tracer

Cloud networks have universally adopted a leaf-spine architecture, using Layer-3 load-balancing to provide scalable performance. With the Arista 7500E as the spine and Arista 7150/7050 as the leaf, these network topologies can support cloud data centers with more than 100,000 servers that deliver consistent performance for dynamically scaling workloads in public or private clouds, including Hadoop, Big Data, storage, Web 2.0, VM farms, and network virtualization.
Show Links
Full press release - http://www.aristanetworks.com/en/news/pressrelease/568-pr-20130501-01

Founder Andy Bechtolsheim's latest blog, "The Next Generation in Cloud-Scale Networking: The Arista 7500E" - http://www.aristanetworks.com/en/blogs/?p=845

7500E Series Video Overview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KewtombE57M

7500E Video Data Sheet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI3ZPLDPF3g

SDN Video Overview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlch6UKJP3w</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>51:38</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 145 – Talking OpenDaylight and SDN</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/URjc0zlbOL4/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-145-talking-opendaylight-and-sdn/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>A community show where we get Brent Salisbury and Ivan Pepelnjak to talk about the events of the last few weeks. In the end, the only thing we seemed to cover was OpenDaylight, ONS and various SDN topics. Open Networking Summit &amp;#8211; Brent reports in. Talking SDN and OpenDaylight Ivan asks &amp;#8220;will you install open [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/URjc0zlbOL4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>openflow,podcast,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>A community show where we get Brent Salisbury and Ivan Pepelnjak to talk about the events of the last few weeks. In the end, the only thing we seemed to cover was OpenDaylight, ONS and various SDN topics.  Open Networking Summit - Brent reports in. </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>A community show where we get Brent Salisbury and Ivan Pepelnjak to talk about the events of the last few weeks. In the end, the only thing we seemed to cover was OpenDaylight, ONS and various SDN topics.

	Open Networking Summit - Brent reports in.
	Talking SDN and OpenDaylight
	Ivan asks "will you install open source software as the controller in your SDN network"
	Juniper is Father (IP), Son (BGP) and Holy Ghost(MPLS)

Cisco's Padmasree Warrior tells us that networking is all about the hardware -  Three Truths about Networking – the Next Chapter
To summarize, of the $3.7B SDN market opportunity represented, 58% of the market or roughly $2.1 Billion is network infrastructure. Neither routers nor switches will become irrelevant in the world of SDN. Only 8.7% or roughly $330 Million represents the market opportunity for the control-plane enabling SDN technology – whether that’s a software controller or some form of virtual overlay technology. The truth is, Cisco will see a $670 Million market for next generation applications and network services that will get created on top of the hardware and software infrastructure. By the way, this market is an incremental opportunity to the business Cisco operates in today. Not to mention a high margin incremental business in the roughly $570 Million market for services that tie the new applications to the systems infrastructure.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>59:48</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 144 – Open EIGRP With Russ White + Cisco’s Donnie Savage</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/ZkP8jBEJMc0/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-144-open-eigrp-with-russ-white-ciscos-donnie-savage/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>EIGRP is a distance vector routing protocol that for many years was unique to Cisco networking environments. Created and championed by Cisco, it didn&amp;#8217;t get any traction in the standards bodies in the early days, because there were already enough interior gateway routing protocols around according to some. EIGRP just didn&amp;#8217;t interest enough of the [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ZkP8jBEJMc0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>donnie savage,ieft,open eigrp,routing,russ white</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>EIGRP is a distance vector routing protocol that for many years was unique to Cisco networking environments. Created and championed by Cisco, it didn't get any traction in the standards bodies in the early days,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>EIGRP is a distance vector routing protocol that for many years was unique to Cisco networking environments. Created and championed by Cisco, it didn't get any traction in the standards bodies in the early days, because there were already enough interior gateway routing protocols around according to some. EIGRP just didn't interest enough of the right folks to get it on the standards track.

Fast forward to today, and Cisco has been able to publish EIGRP as an informational IETF draft known popularly as Open EIGRP. Two of the authors of that draft, Donnie Savage with Cisco and Russ White, join Ethan Banks on the Packet Pushers podcast for a discussion of Open EIGRP in this show.

We talk through a number of issues.

	Why did Cisco open EIGRP up?
	Why did Cisco hold back on stub?
	What's the reaction of the community been?
	What non-Cisco vendors are interested in EIGRP?
	Are we going to see an open-source implementation of EIGRP now?
	And perhaps most cynically of all...what's in it for Cisco?

LINKS
Open EIGRP IETF Draft Text (ietf.org)

Cisco Open EIGRP Informational Draft FAQ (cisco.com)

Why is Cisco Bothering with "Open" EIGRP? (Anthony Burke, packetpushers.net)

Thoughts on Open EIGRP (Russ White, packetpushers.net)</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>42:29</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 143 – Anuta Networks Demonstrates nCloudX Controller – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/BpQKd2jHR08/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On March 26, 2013, the Packet Pushers held a sponsored webinar with Anuta Networks to introduce their nCloudX controller to our networking community. In the webinar, the Anuta team covers the following: A bit about their background, the problems they are going after, and how nCloudX addresseses these challenges. An explanation of the nCloudX architecture, [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/BpQKd2jHR08" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>anuta networks,cloud provider,controller,iaas,ncloudx,orchestration,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>On March 26, 2013, the Packet Pushers held a sponsored webinar with Anuta Networks to introduce their nCloudX controller to our networking community. - In the webinar, the Anuta team covers the following:  A bit about their background,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>On March 26, 2013, the Packet Pushers held a sponsored webinar with Anuta Networks to introduce their nCloudX controller to our networking community.

In the webinar, the Anuta team covers the following:

	A bit about their background, the problems they are going after, and how nCloudX addresseses these challenges.
	An explanation of the nCloudX architecture, so you'll understand how it fits into your environment. You'll want to take special note of the discussion around the slide that shows up about 8 minutes in, seen below.

	A demonstration of some of the major tools in nCloudX, including the service design and delivery engines.
	A demonstration of nCloudX interacting with both OpenStack and VMware vCloud Director.
	These were LIVE DEMOS with real working software done during the webinar event while the audience watched.

Along the way, Packet Pushers co-hosts Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks discuss major points with presenters Nat Chidambaram, CCIE #5792 &amp; Director of Product Management and Reddy Bhupathi, CCIE #22151 &amp; Principal Architect.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<title>Show 142 – Huawei – End to End SDN Strategy – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/UHlfeAOEXW4/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-142-huawei-end-to-end-sdn-strategy-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SDN innovation has been primarily focused on the data center where centralized network programmability has been shown to be capable of providing many benefits to the complex and dynamic (on-demand) data center environment. Service provider networks will also benefit from SDN. Traversing a service provider network involves crossing different network types, technologies, layers and administrative domains. SDN solutions, including OpenFlow’s programmatic control, will provide capabilities unique to these service provider technologies. Huawei presents an architecture that expands SDN into multiple, task specific, controllers and domains and extends networking control across all of the service provider network dimensions.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/UHlfeAOEXW4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>huawei,openflow,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>SDN innovation has been primarily focused on the data center where centralized network programmability has been shown to be capable of providing many benefits to the complex and dynamic (on-demand) data center environment.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>SDN innovation has been primarily focused on the data center where centralized network programmability has been shown to be capable of providing many benefits to the complex and dynamic (on-demand) data center environment. Service provider networks will also benefit from SDN. Traversing a service provider network involves crossing different network types, technologies, layers and administrative domains. SDN solutions, including OpenFlow’s programmatic control, will provide capabilities unique to these service provider technologies. Huawei presents an architecture that expands SDN into multiple, task specific, controllers and domains and extends networking control across all of the service provider network dimensions.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>48:56</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 141 – The Pace of Change Is Picking Up – #NFD5 Discussion</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/GMyu4dQirGQ/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks of PacketPushers.net host a discussion with Dr. Peter Welcher, Brent Salisbury, and Stephen Foskett about many of the presentations from the Network Field Day 5 event held March 6-8, 2013 in San Jose, California. The leading podcast topic was software defined networking, as that was the vendor focus during the [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/GMyu4dQirGQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>brocade,cisco,juniper,nfd5,openflow,plexxi,SDN,vyatta</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks of PacketPushers.net host a discussion with Dr. Peter Welcher, Brent Salisbury, and Stephen Foskett about many of the presentations from the Network Field Day 5 event held March 6-8, 2013 in San Jose, California. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks of PacketPushers.net host a discussion with Dr. Peter Welcher, Brent Salisbury, and Stephen Foskett about many of the presentations from the Network Field Day 5 event held March 6-8, 2013 in San Jose, California.

The leading podcast topic was software defined networking, as that was the vendor focus during the event. Not that we didn't talk about other stuff too...because we did. Here, look - I outlined the conversation for you. See?
What We Discussed
"I know where all the bodies are buried."

Cisco

	Catalyst 6500 VSS Quad SSO - for the bottomless budget when you can never, ever fail.
	NX-OS "peer-gateway" command. Does is solve the "don't peer with a Nexus across the vPC peer-link problem"?
	3850 switch

	CAPWAP tunneling in hardware
	StackWise480 - not backwards compatible with 3750 stacking.


	Cisco CSR - price competitive all of a sudden.

Plexxi

	Use of sFlow in modeling application traffic, among other things.
	Their idea of "affinity networking".
	Interesting idea not related to Plexxi as such: Should we be lookign at moving VMs to specific clusters instead of tunneling between VMs to optimize traffic patterns?

Brocade

	What does the Vyatta acquisition mean for them?
	Brocade's OpenFlow-centric conversations.
	Internet2 100G SDN network Brocade participates in.
	David Meyer's chat - robustness vs. fragility.
	Curt Beckmann - update on the ONF.
	The "Closed-Open Networking Foundation". Is there something we can do as a community to open up the ONF a little bit?

Cisco (again)

	onePK

	Cisco using it internally to do rapid feature development.
	Exposing features of a hardware device.
	As an aside, 90% of the features in IOS are nerd knobs, but the documentation doesn't differentiate. Shouldn't Cisco do something about that?


	Daylight - rumored consortium of vendors to agree on a controller platform.

	Java-based.
	Potentially Beacon. Assuming Daylight won't be Floodlight-based, and assuming java.
	It's about all the players contributing running code that everyone benefits from.


	If Cisco waits for customer demand to drive products and architectures, is that leadership?
	Cisco's hanging back on OpenFlow adoption, whereas Brocade is not. Why is that?

Juniper

	Puppet agent for Junos is great stuff. Why hasn't this been done sooner?
	Contrail - tunnel fabric that scales to multiple data centers, and includes L3 at the soft switch edge. Still immature, perhaps?
	Mykonos has been rebranded WebApp Secure, because marketing matters. Or something. Still a really nifty security product.

Links
NFV project portal at ETSI (NFV mentioned by Brent)

NFD5 free-form discussion with Cisco at YouTube (mentioned by Greg)</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>88:51</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 140 – Introduction OpenStack and Quantum Projects</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/XXV-ULCMO4s/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-140-introduction-openstack-and-quantum-projects/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenStack is progressively developing into a product that networking needs to be a part of. One way to describe OpenStack is to say it’s an API for infrastructure. OpenStack is a combination of open source plus a significant number of hardware vendors who see contributions to OpenStack as a way of growing or maintaining their own markets and customers.

Customers want OpenStack as an alternative to VMware or other commercial software - not all applications and service need to have expensive software licenses and maintenance. We need to be able to build a core of functional services that can deliver services.

In the future, it seems likely that OpenStack Quantum API will be important. We discuss Open Vswitch and how it’s changing from being a “switch” to including routing, firewall and load balancing features. If you don’t like that, you could consider using Quantum API as a way to consume load balancers from your preferred vendor - the API exists to simplify the consumption of network resources.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/XXV-ULCMO4s" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cloud,convergence,openstack,quantum,virtual,virtualization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>OpenStack is progressively developing into a product that networking needs to be a part of. One way to describe OpenStack is to say it’s an API for infrastructure. OpenStack is a combination of open source plus a significant number of hardware vendors ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>OpenStack is progressively developing into a product that networking needs to be a part of. One way to describe OpenStack is to say it’s an API for infrastructure. OpenStack is a combination of open source plus a significant number of hardware vendors who see contributions to OpenStack as a way of growing or maintaining their own markets and customers.

Customers want OpenStack as an alternative to VMware or other commercial software - not all applications and service need to have expensive software licenses and maintenance. We need to be able to build a core of functional services that can deliver services.

In the future, it seems likely that OpenStack Quantum API will be important. We discuss Open Vswitch and how it’s changing from being a “switch” to including routing, firewall and load balancing features. If you don’t like that, you could consider using Quantum API as a way to consume load balancers from your preferred vendor - the API exists to simplify the consumption of network resources.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>46:34</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 139 – Making Your Way Down the Path to Nirvana</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/6bLYTYNc2P4/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-139-making-your-way-down-the-path-to-nirvana/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular hosts Greg Ferro &amp;#38; Ethan Banks are joined by Brandon Carroll, Josh O&amp;#8217;Brien, and Tom Hollingsworth in Packet Pushers Weekly Show 139. We translate all the SDN hype into a more practical conversation about what network engineers should be doing to update their skills. This is a mostly raw podcast with little editing &amp;#8211; just [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/6bLYTYNc2P4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco onepk,onf,openflow,SDN,virtualization,vxlan</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Regular hosts Greg Ferro &amp; Ethan Banks are joined by Brandon Carroll, Josh O'Brien, and Tom Hollingsworth in Packet Pushers Weekly Show 139. We translate all the SDN hype into a more practical conversation about what network engineers should be doing t...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Regular hosts Greg Ferro &amp; Ethan Banks are joined by Brandon Carroll, Josh O'Brien, and Tom Hollingsworth in Packet Pushers Weekly Show 139. We translate all the SDN hype into a more practical conversation about what network engineers should be doing to update their skills. This is a mostly raw podcast with little editing - just a bunch of people speaking their minds.
What We Discuss

	Which vendors are the ones to watch.
	Who the "safe bet" is.
	What new technologies are worth paying attention to.
	Why you can't afford to put your head in the sand.
	How to map new products to actual network use cases.
	When this is all going to matter.

We recorded in a mostly quiet foyer on the 5th floor of the Radisson in San Jose, as we were gathered together for Network Field Day 5. However, there is a bit of noise from the nearby elevator and housekeeping crew doing their appointed rounds. Sorry about that...we edited out what we could.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>66:33</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 138 – HP’s Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Strategy and Solution</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/UCCf5S7dVRs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show 138 – HP’s Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Strategy and Solution [Written by HP.] There has been a lot of interest in the market place recently around software-defined Networking (SDN). HP has been a leader in SDN technologies from the very beginning. HP has played an instrumental role in the development of OpenFlow and continues to [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/UCCf5S7dVRs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>Bryan Stiekes,Dave Tucker,hp,hp sentinel security application,hp tippingpoint repdv,hp virtual application networks sdn controller,hp virtual cloud networks application,openflow,openstack,Sarwar Raza,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Show 138 – HP’s Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Strategy and Solution [Written by HP.] - There has been a lot of interest in the market place recently around software-defined Networking (SDN). HP has been a leader in SDN technologies from the very ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Show 138 – HP’s Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Strategy and Solution
[Written by HP.]

There has been a lot of interest in the market place recently around software-defined Networking (SDN). HP has been a leader in SDN technologies from the very beginning. HP has played an instrumental role in the development of OpenFlow and continues to lead the market. For example:

	HP and Stanford began collaborating on Ethane—the predecessor to OpenFlow—in 2007.
	HP OpenFlow technology has been the leading choice for researchers worldwide since 2008.
	HP now has 29 switches that are enterprise-grade OpenFlow capable, representing the largest OpenFlow-enabled portfolio in the marketplace.

Last year, at Interop New York 2012, we announced the industry’s first complete and open-standards-based SDN technologies across all three critical SDN layers—infrastructure, control and application layers that enable enterprises and cloud providers to simplify architecture across data center, campus and branch networks.
New innovations at the infrastructure layer included additional OpenFlow-enabled switches. New innovation at the control layer is the Virtual Application Networks SDN controller that centralizes the control plane. At the application layer, we announced two SDN applications:

	The first application is the HP Virtual Cloud Network (VCN) application that enables cloud providers to deliver automated, scalable and secure multitenant public cloud services to enterprises. Enterprises can also leverage HP VCN to gain the advantages of automation within their private clouds, while enabling secure integration of public cloud environments into their private environment.
	The second application is the HP Sentinel Security Application. Sentinel application can stop threats before they reach your network by leveraging OpenFlow and HP TippingPoint RepDV – a cloud hosted reputation database. We demonstrated a proof-of-concept at the Interop NYC to showcase how we leverage OpenFlow to redirect client DNS queries traffic to the SDN controller, compare the URL against the RepDV and decide whether to permit or block the connection.

Since Interop, we have been hard at work on our SDN solution, so I grabbed the opportunity for our SDN experts Bryan Stiekes and Sarwar Raza to speak with you, the Packet Pushers’ audience, and share with you some of the technical details regarding our solution.
What we discussed

	HP’s definition of SDN
	Why we believe SDN is important
	The application of SDN in both the Data Center &amp; Campus
	Our SDN products: HP Virtual Application Networks SDN Controller, Virtual Cloud Networks application and Sentinel Security application
	HP’s Open APIs
	HP’s leadership in OpenFlow and OpenStack

For more information
You can find more information on HP’s SDN product offerings
on HP.com

I would highly recommend the following:

	CERN’s video on their R&amp;D collaboration with HP
	HP’s SDN Technology White Paper

We now have 29 models of switches with OpenFlow support. You can find an up to date list of all of our OpenFlow products here

If you can’t find what you are looking for on the website or need more information about SDN you can ask @hp_networking on Twitter. You can also reach me directly @dave_tucker or at dave[dot]j[dot]tucker[at]hp[dot]com</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>43:07</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 137 – Gartner Is Not for Sale With @Aneel Lakhani</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/wR1XFDQud30/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-137-gartner-is-not-for-sale-with-aneel-lakhani/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summary Packet Pushers co-hosts Ethan Banks &amp;#38; Greg Ferro chat with Aneel Lakhani, a research director at Gartner about his job. Aneel provides an insider perspective on  how the research &amp;#38; analysis business works. More Info Analyst firm research offerings seem to cynical network engineers like bought-and-paid-for shill pieces whose conclusions follow the money back to its [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/wR1XFDQud30" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>analyst,aneel lakhani,gartner,independence</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Summary Packet Pushers co-hosts Ethan Banks &amp; Greg Ferro chat with Aneel Lakhani, a research director at Gartner about his job. Aneel provides an insider perspective on  how the research &amp; analysis business works. More Info </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Summary
Packet Pushers co-hosts Ethan Banks &amp; Greg Ferro chat with Aneel Lakhani, a research director at Gartner about his job. Aneel provides an insider perspective on  how the research &amp; analysis business works.
More Info
Analyst firm research offerings seem to cynical network engineers like bought-and-paid-for shill pieces whose conclusions follow the money back to its source. As such, Gartner and other firms are the butt of jokes and ridicule from the CLI jockeys who make networks work every day.

Aneel is active on Twitter and interacts with a lot of networking vendors. Since we knew he worked Gartner, we wondered if he'd like to talk about what really goes on inside Gartner's ivory towers. With Gartner's blessing, Aneel came on the show and answered some hard questions frankly - even bluntly. Sure, Aneel doesn't speak for all of Gartner, but we ended up with a lot of useful insight from him.

	How does Aneel's job work? What's he do all day?
	Who is a Gartner "customer"?
	How does an analyst determine what products are interesting while avoiding bias?
	How technically competent are Gartner analysts?
	Most Gartner reports seems to represent the current state of affairs, but not look into the future. Why is that?
	Why is longevity at Gartner something to be proud of?</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>32:24</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 136: Avaya – Considerations for Turning Your Network Into an Ethernet Fabric – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/7ddvjsln2mQ/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We’ve done a few shows now on Ethernet Fabrics where we have been getting deep into the different technology options and different vendor implementations.  Avaya has sponsored this show where we actually interview customers who were early adopters of fabric-based  and talk about what drove these customers to implement a network fabric, how they went [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/7ddvjsln2mQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>avaya,shortest path bridging,spb</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>We’ve done a few shows now on Ethernet Fabrics where we have been getting deep into the different technology options and different vendor implementations.  Avaya has sponsored this show where we actually interview customers who were early adopters of f...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>We’ve done a few shows now on Ethernet Fabrics where we have been getting deep into the different technology options and different vendor implementations.  Avaya has sponsored this show where we actually interview customers who were early adopters of fabric-based  and talk about what drove these customers to implement a network fabric, how they went about deploying it and what the real-world values have been for them and their end users.

One thing we think that you’ll really find interesting is how these customers are using their fabrics.  Their deployments include L2 extensions between data centers, integrated IP routing and even multicast forwarding.  They have unique insight to share on how and why it makes sense to transition L2 and L3 services to a single unified fabric.

Avaya has a different approach to building Ethernet Fabrics based in IEEE standards with Shortest Path Bridging (SPB). SPB works both as an Ethernet Fabric in the Data Centre but also has capabilities in the Campus, MAN and WAN.

We talked in more technical detail about SPB (IEEE 802.1aq &amp; IETF RFC 6329) in Show 44 – The Case for Shortest Path Bridging in May 2011.
Guests

	Phil Taylor, Communications Consultant, from Leed’s Metropolitan University.  He deployed an Ethernet Fabric in 2012 between data centers to gain greater flexibility and agility.
	Rick Bolt, Network Engineer from Franciscan Alliance –Network Engineer from Franciscan Alliance who deployed a fabric to interconnect 14 hospitals across 3 states.
	Paul Unbehagen from Avaya – Active member of the IEEE and IETF, one of the authors of the Shortest Path Bridging specification based on IEEE 802.1aq and IETF 6329 and a leading expert on fabric technologies.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>37:17</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 135 – Change Control Causes Constipation</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/iqvtf9kTdzo/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-135-change-control-causes-constipation/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan &amp;#038; Greg discuss events of the previous week or two and some of the things that have happened. Closely looking the Cisco's announcements of ONE Controller, Nexus 6000 and virtual networking products.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/iqvtf9kTdzo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco, Nexus, 6000, riverbed, stingray, ONE, controller, leaf, spine,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Ethan &amp; Greg discuss events of the previous week or two and some of the things that have happened. Closely looking the Cisco's announcements of ONE Controller, Nexus 6000 and virtual networking products.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Ethan &amp; Greg discuss events of the previous week or two and some of the things that have happened. Closely looking the Cisco's announcements of ONE Controller, Nexus 6000 and virtual networking products.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>82:44</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 134 – OSPF Design Part 1 – Debunking the Multiple Area Myth</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/e-GaAcVBP5I/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-134-ospf-design-part-1-debunking-the-multiple-area-myth/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derick Winkworth, Paul Gear, and Darren O&amp;#8217; Connor chat with Ethan Banks about their experiences with OSPF. The major focus of the conversation is on single vs. multiple areas. What We Discuss What should the reference bandwidth be set to? How big of an integer does OSPF use to store the cost metric? When should [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/e-GaAcVBP5I" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>area 0,bfd,john moy,ospf,reference bandwidth,rfc 5880,route summarization,timers</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Derick Winkworth, Paul Gear, and Darren O' Connor chat with Ethan Banks about their experiences with OSPF. The major focus of the conversation is on single vs. multiple areas. What We Discuss  What should the reference bandwidth be set to? </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Derick Winkworth, Paul Gear, and Darren O' Connor chat with Ethan Banks about their experiences with OSPF. The major focus of the conversation is on single vs. multiple areas.
What We Discuss

	What should the reference bandwidth be set to?
	How big of an integer does OSPF use to store the cost metric?
	When should your OSPF design assume one area?
	Does that old guideline of "50 routers in an area" still hold true?
	When is it wise to split an OSPF domain into multiple areas?
	The differences between what you're taught in a certification program and reality.
	How does route summarization play into OSPF area design?
	OSPFv3 &amp; IPv6: how are real-world deployments going?
	Timer and tweaks and oscillations - oh, my!
	Why using Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) is better than tweaking OSPF timers.

Links

	Darren's blog
	Paul's blog
	Derick's blog (on Packet Pushers)
	OSPF: Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol by John Moy (Amazon)
	Cisco OSPF Design Guide
	Wikipedia on OSPF
	Jeff Doyle's "Favorite Interview Question" (explains why interarea OSPF traffic must traverse the backbone area)
	RFC5880 - Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>51:19</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 133 – What Makes Brocade VCS Fabrics Different – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/qHJgRsUo5LY/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brocade&amp;#8217;s Jon Hudson joins Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a introduction to Brocade VCS fabrics. VCS is the software that runs on Brocade VDX hardware, and Jon explains the basic implementation and use cases for the VCS approach. What We Discuss What Brocade is going after with VCS: automation &amp;#38; intelligence. The ability to [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/qHJgRsUo5LY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Brocade's Jon Hudson joins Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a introduction to Brocade VCS fabrics. VCS is the software that runs on Brocade VDX hardware, and Jon explains the basic implementation and use cases for the VCS approach. What We Discuss - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Brocade's Jon Hudson joins Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a introduction to Brocade VCS fabrics. VCS is the software that runs on Brocade VDX hardware, and Jon explains the basic implementation and use cases for the VCS approach.
What We Discuss

	What Brocade is going after with VCS: automation &amp; intelligence.
	The ability to make hitless changes to a production VCS fabric.
	AMPP: automatic migration of port profiles.
	VCS integration with vCenter.
	Brocade's custom silicon - they make their own ASICs.
	Brocade's strong storage history makes for a strong storage over Ethernet fabric story today.
	Use case #1: cloud services provider.
	Use case #2: private clouds in the enterprise.
	Use case #3: VDI in a health care environment.

Links

	Brocade VCS Fabric Technology
	Brocade VDX 8770 Switch
	Packet Pushers Priority Queue - Show 11 – Brocade VDX 8770 – Technical Deep Dive
	Packet Pushers Priority Queue - Show 17 – Reviewing the Brocade VDX Launch With Ivan Pepelnjak</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>34:59</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 132 – Spirent Axon Test Gear – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/Ox7VU5J9MFg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-132-spirent-axon-test-gear-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing the Spirent Axon network testing tool for real engineers that delivers proactive testing and validation for enterprise networks and applications. The best way we can describe it: "It's a testing rig that engineers can actually afford to have in the boot of your car". Spirent Axon is the first of its kind network quality platform to proactively validate the performance and functionality of your network, network elements and application throughout the network lifecycle.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/Ox7VU5J9MFg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>axon,bandwidth,network,qos,spirent,Testing</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Introducing the Spirent Axon network testing tool for real engineers that delivers proactive testing and validation for enterprise networks and applications. The best way we can describe it: "It's a testing rig that engineers can actually afford to hav...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Introducing the Spirent Axon network testing tool for real engineers that delivers proactive testing and validation for enterprise networks and applications. The best way we can describe it: "It's a testing rig that engineers can actually afford to have in the boot of your car". Spirent Axon is the first of its kind network quality platform to proactively validate the performance and functionality of your network, network elements and application throughout the network lifecycle.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>25:02</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 131 – Golf Cart in My Fibre Tunnel</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/SQTNAUIZiNg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-131-golf-cart-in-my-fibre-tunnel/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking with Senior Engineers from University Campus with tens to hundreds  of thousands of Ethernet ports, and up to 50 000 wireless clients.What are the technology challenges of managing such huge networks. Not only do these networks handle student and academic traffic, but they also have commercial aspects including hospitals.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/SQTNAUIZiNg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>ethernet,multi,scale,vendor,wireless</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Talking with Senior Engineers from University Campus with tens to hundreds  of thousands of Ethernet ports, and up to 50 000 wireless clients.What are the technology challenges of managing such huge networks.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Talking with Senior Engineers from University Campus with tens to hundreds  of thousands of Ethernet ports, and up to 50 000 wireless clients.What are the technology challenges of managing such huge networks. Not only do these networks handle student and academic traffic, but they also have commercial aspects including hospitals.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>80:23</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 130 – 2012 Wrap Up and Holiday Wishes</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/-JjEXEzgvVU/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-130-2012-wrap-up-and-holiday-wishes/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Greg and me to you, Merry Christmas &amp;#38; Happy Holidays. This edition of the Packet Pushers podcast is short and sweet: Our thanks to many in the community. A fireside chat to let you know how the show has been going. What our plans are for 2013. Audio holiday greeting cards from several listeners. [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/-JjEXEzgvVU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>From Greg and me to you, Merry Christmas &amp; Happy Holidays. This edition of the Packet Pushers podcast is short and sweet:  Our thanks to many in the community.   A fireside chat to let you know how the show has been going. </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>From Greg and me to you, Merry Christmas &amp; Happy Holidays. This edition of the Packet Pushers podcast is short and sweet:

	Our thanks to many in the community.
	A fireside chat to let you know how the show has been going.
	What our plans are for 2013.
	Audio holiday greeting cards from several listeners.

Please enjoy, and we'll see you next year!</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>36:26</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 129 – UNH’s InterOperability Lab Discusses Ethernet in Your Car</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/yQXH5TnRAwk/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-129-unhs-interoperability-lab-discusses-ethernet-in-your-car/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Jeff Lapak and Dave Estes from the University of New Hampshire&amp;#8217;s InterOperability Lab join the Packet Pushers to introduce the IOL to the audience. We also chat about BroadR-Reach: Ethernet for your car. BroadR-Reach is enabling all sorts of automotive future tech, as our cars become just as networked as any of our other modern gadgets. In [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/yQXH5TnRAwk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>broadcom,broadr-reach,dave estes,ethernet,jeff lapak,open alliance,unh iol</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Jeff Lapak and Dave Estes from the University of New Hampshire's InterOperability Lab join the Packet Pushers to introduce the IOL to the audience. We also chat about BroadR-Reach: Ethernet for your car. BroadR-Reach is enabling all sorts of automotive...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Jeff Lapak and Dave Estes from the University of New Hampshire's InterOperability Lab join the Packet Pushers to introduce the IOL to the audience. We also chat about BroadR-Reach: Ethernet for your car. BroadR-Reach is enabling all sorts of automotive future tech, as our cars become just as networked as any of our other modern gadgets.

In this show, we discuss the UNH IOL - what it is, what it does, and why you care. Then we jump into a discussion of BroadR-Reach, how it's tested, what the roadmap is, and what the use cases are for Ethernet inside of automobiles.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>32:24</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 128 – Big Switch Networks Demos Big Virtual Switch &amp; Big Tap</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/InrP365rv80/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/big-switch-networks-demos-big-virtual-switch-big-tap/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>After all the discussions around OpenFlow and SDN, it's time to look at real products. In this podcast, you can hear Dan Hersey of Big Switch Networks, describe the Open SDN architecture and explain how the Big Network Controller provides a network application platform. Dan describes the SDN products that run on the Big Network Controller -  Big Virtual Switch &amp;#038; Big Tap.

Stay until the end for the demonstration of Big Tap, an Open SDN-based universal monitoring application.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/InrP365rv80" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>big switch,openflow,SDN,webinar,webinars</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>After all the discussions around OpenFlow and SDN, it's time to look at real products. In this podcast, you can hear Dan Hersey of Big Switch Networks, describe the Open SDN architecture and explain how the Big Network Controller provides a network app...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>After all the discussions around OpenFlow and SDN, it's time to look at real products. In this podcast, you can hear Dan Hersey of Big Switch Networks, describe the Open SDN architecture and explain how the Big Network Controller provides a network application platform. Dan describes the SDN products that run on the Big Network Controller -  Big Virtual Switch &amp; Big Tap.

Stay until the end for the demonstration of Big Tap, an Open SDN-based universal monitoring application.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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		<title>Show 127 – We Still Don’t Get LISP</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/5IriT-o2DGE/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-127-we-still-dont-get-lisp/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Continuing from a previous recording, this is Part 2 of discussing events that have happened in the last month or so. Recorded on 11 November, we talk about: Vyatta acquisition by Brocade &amp;#8211; how it fits with competitors. And a look at how Brocade works. The challenge of virtualization in smaller networks The impact of dynamic [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/5IriT-o2DGE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>brocade,dynamic,lisp,VDX,virtualization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Continuing from a previous recording, this is Part 2 of discussing events that have happened in the last month or so. Recorded on 11 November, we talk about:   Vyatta acquisition by Brocade - how it fits with competitors. </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Continuing from a previous recording, this is Part 2 of discussing events that have happened in the last month or so. Recorded on 11 November, we talk about:


	Vyatta acquisition by Brocade - how it fits with competitors.
	And a look at how Brocade works.
	The challenge of virtualization in smaller networks
	The impact of dynamic networking - decupling the physical from the virtual.
	A plug for the Packet Pushers Forum
	Discussing how LISP works, but most of us still don't get it.
	Show 123 – LISP Use Cases With Dino Farinacci &amp; Victor Moreno of Cisco – Sponsored


Brent Salisbury - NetworkStatic.net @NetworkStatic
Bob McCouch - @bobmccouch
Ethan Banks &amp; Greg Ferro</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>48:22</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 126 – Plexxi &amp; Affinity Networking With Marten Terpstra – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/m7-ey-BQ3yc/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-126-plexxi-affinity-networking-with-marten-terpstra-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Boston area networking startup Plexxi parks their tour bus at the Packet Pushers studios for a chat with Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro. Plexxi&amp;#8217;s Ethernet switch with optical ring interconnect using WDM makes a highly meshed network possible without requiring core switches. Add Plexxi&amp;#8217;s API and controller, and the Plexxi solution allows network architects to [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/m7-ey-BQ3yc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>8</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>affinity networking,dwdm,marten terpstra,optical networking,plexxi,SDN,wdm</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Boston area networking startup Plexxi parks their tour bus at the Packet Pushers studios for a chat with Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro. Plexxi's Ethernet switch with optical ring interconnect using WDM makes a highly meshed network possible without requir...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Boston area networking startup Plexxi parks their tour bus at the Packet Pushers studios for a chat with Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro. Plexxi's Ethernet switch with optical ring interconnect using WDM makes a highly meshed network possible without requiring core switches. Add Plexxi's API and controller, and the Plexxi solution allows network architects to build affinities between systems and give them special, flexible treatment across the data center. The approach is genuinely out-of-the-box thinking, and to my mind, an outstanding example what what software defined networking really looks like.

Marten Terpstra, Director of Product Management at Plexxi, brings the nerdery, talking through the Plexxi approach at both a technical and practical level.


What We Discuss

	The Plexxi hardware solution.
	Interconnecting Plexxi switches using WDM over an optical ring: the LightRail interface.
	The concept of "Affinity Networking."
	The Plexxi software controller.
	How a Plexxi network functions without a controller (yes, it still works).
	Understanding the Plexxi API.
	How traffic is forwarded through a Plexxi domain.
	MLAG support and other practical matters.
	Use cases.

Links

	Plexxi.com
	Plexxi Pulse Blog
	Affinity Driven Networking - Dec 2012 whitepaper (PDF)</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>45:00</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 125 – Bufferbloat – What Can You Do Today to Suffer Less</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/lXWXNODdtjg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-125-bufferbloat-what-can-you-do-today-to-suffer-less-2/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Buffer Bloat is the overuse of buffering in network equipment. Well meaning but misguided and, most likely, stupid equipment vendors have tried to avoid packet loss by increasing the the buffers in the network. But they have missed a fundamental property of TCP and UDP protocols, if they live in a buffer for too long, [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/lXWXNODdtjg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>10</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>bufferbloat,jim gettys,tcp window</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Buffer Bloat is the overuse of buffering in network equipment. Well meaning but misguided and, most likely, stupid equipment vendors have tried to avoid packet loss by increasing the the buffers in the network.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Buffer Bloat is the overuse of buffering in network equipment. Well meaning but misguided and, most likely, stupid equipment vendors have tried to avoid packet loss by increasing the the buffers in the network. But they have missed a fundamental property of TCP and UDP protocols, if they live in a buffer for too long, the receiver will time out and request retransmission. As a result, data is transmitted twice or three times.

To make matters worse, the overbuffering causes TCP fast start algorithm failure. That is, TCP must acknowledge receipt of frames and if those ACK packet are stuck in a buffer, the next tranche of data cannot be sent. Therefore, bandwidth is unused to since TCP cannot burst into the available capacity.

In this podcast, we talk to Jim Gettys, who first published his take on the problem and comprehensively proved it. Since then, things have started to happen.



Here in our boardroom that is fully equipped with keen minds, practical and bitter experiences, and overblown sense of what the future should look like, we attempt to tackle the issues that matter to the networking engineers.

Bandwidth Delay Product http://etherealmind.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-transfer-data-rules-of-thumb/

ICSI Netalyzer - http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu

http://gettys.wordpress.com/category/bufferbloat/</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>89:04</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 124 – MPLS in the Data Centre Is Dead &amp; SDN Changes Nothing</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/01dbtoPZOxc/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-124-mpls-in-the-data-centre-is-dead-sdn-changes-nothing/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>The conversation starts discussing Nexus 5K as a small/mid-size core. Yep, it works. Then Greg gets his Unicorn Riding outfit on and saddles up to run SDN race once again. This results in extensive yelling that "MPLS in the Data Centre is dead, SDN will win". Promptly followed by cool discussion that SDN/OpenFlow changes very little in networking. 

If that's confusing, you need to listen in.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/01dbtoPZOxc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>12</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>mpls,openflow,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>The conversation starts discussing Nexus 5K as a small/mid-size core. Yep, it works. Then Greg gets his Unicorn Riding outfit on and saddles up to run SDN race once again. This results in extensive yelling that "MPLS in the Data Centre is dead,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The conversation starts discussing Nexus 5K as a small/mid-size core. Yep, it works. Then Greg gets his Unicorn Riding outfit on and saddles up to run SDN race once again. This results in extensive yelling that "MPLS in the Data Centre is dead, SDN will win". Promptly followed by cool discussion that SDN/OpenFlow changes very little in networking. 

If that's confusing, you need to listen in.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>40:25</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 123 – LISP Use Cases With Dino Farinacci &amp; Victor Moreno of Cisco – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/6ybyD_Gl_7k/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-123-lisp-use-cases-with-dino-farinacci-victor-moreno-of-cisco-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>This week&amp;#8217;s podcast features Cisco Fellow &amp;#38; Senior Software Engineer Dino Farinacci and Distinguished Engineer Victor Moreno in a discussion of LISP - Locator/ID Separation Protocol. Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro host. The Packet Pushers talked with Victor back in show 54 about LISP. Show 123 is focused less on the mechanics of the protocol, and [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/6ybyD_Gl_7k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco lisp,dino farinacci,lisp,locator/id separation protocol,victor moreno</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This week's podcast features Cisco Fellow &amp; Senior Software Engineer Dino Farinacci and Distinguished Engineer Victor Moreno in a discussion of LISP - Locator/ID Separation Protocol. Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro host. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week's podcast features Cisco Fellow &amp; Senior Software Engineer Dino Farinacci and Distinguished Engineer Victor Moreno in a discussion of LISP - Locator/ID Separation Protocol. Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro host.

The Packet Pushers talked with Victor back in show 54 about LISP. Show 123 is focused less on the mechanics of the protocol, and more on the use cases. In other words, what can we do with yet another routing protocol that hasn't already been done with others? The answer is rather a lot. LISP isn't simply a routing protocol; it's a way of decoupling an endpoint (something you're trying to communicate with) from a physical location. Therefore, an endpoint can be stationary or mobile, and LISP will sort that out in way that scales to Internet-size and beyond.
What We Discuss

	Quick review: what is LISP?
	How is LISP different from legacy tunneling protocols?
	What Cisco platforms run LISP?
	Where does a LISP mapping database run?
	LISP Use Case: L2 DCI &amp; vMotion.
	LISP Use Case: Changing the Notion of Subnetting.
	Explaining LISP RLOCs &amp; EIDs.
	The LISP future vs. current reality.
	How extensible are the LISP forwarding tuples?
	LISP Use Case: The Internet of Things.
	LISP Use Case: Mobility Across Cloud Providers.
	How does LISP scale?
	Will LISP be standardized and adopted by other vendors?
	Other LISP use cases (including IPv6 transition).
	LISP as a programmable API.

 </itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>46:38</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 122 – Mission Impossible: Blast Radius, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/JUXwPtohYOM/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-122-mission-impossible-blast-radius-part-2/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this &amp;#8220;part 2&amp;#8243; podcast (show 119 was part 1), co-hosts Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro are joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Tony Bourke, Kurt Bales, Ivan Pepelnjak and Michele Chubirka aka Mrs. Y. As the show continues, we ramble on about the following: What We Discuss The future of WAN acceleration. Greg was writing this report and started to read [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/JUXwPtohYOM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>firewalls,network security,overlay networks,virtualization security,wan acceleration,wan optimization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this "part 2" podcast (show 119 was part 1), co-hosts Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro are joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Tony Bourke, Kurt Bales, Ivan Pepelnjak and Michele Chubirka aka Mrs. Y. As the show continues, we ramble on about the following: </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this "part 2" podcast (show 119 was part 1), co-hosts Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro are joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Tony Bourke, Kurt Bales, Ivan Pepelnjak and Michele Chubirka aka Mrs. Y. As the show continues, we ramble on about the following:
What We Discuss

	The future of WAN acceleration. Greg was writing this report and started to read up on some things, and then there were all these opinions...you know how it goes on this show.
	Check Point's not feeling the love from this crew. Perhaps a little warmth...the amount of heat you'd feel from a match struck six feet away. But then the discussion morphs into firewalls in general, where the heartfelt admiration of those chattering into their microphones is still really hard to find.
	The security ramble continues into firewall management platforms, followed up by just how we should be securing virtualized environments.
	Closing it out are some bits about overlay networks and how they are impacting data center design.

Fun show to record - we hope you enjoy!</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>56:19</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 121 – Tweet My Meat – Network Field Day 4</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/AI7vhPa8HD8/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-121-tweet-my-meat-network-field-day-4/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this Network Field Day episode of the Packet Pushers, we talk about the happenings of the first two days. Because there were so many of us in the room we used a room mike and the audio isn&amp;#8217;t great but it&amp;#8217;s definitely worth listening to. Discussion Topics Spirent and the upcoming Axon test unit [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/AI7vhPa8HD8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>brocade,cisco,itest,openstack,podcast,quantum,spirent,tech field day,Testing,ucs,VCS</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this Network Field Day episode of the Packet Pushers, we talk about the happenings of the first two days. Because there were so many of us in the room we used a room mike and the audio isn't great but it's definitely worth listening to. </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this Network Field Day episode of the Packet Pushers, we talk about the happenings of the first two days. Because there were so many of us in the room we used a room mike and the audio isn't great but it's definitely worth listening to.
Discussion Topics

	Spirent and the upcoming Axon test unit and iTest Lab management product.
	Brocade Fabric and VCS
	Brocade &amp; the OpenFlow and SDN
	Openstack and Quantum

We also covered a few news topics.

	The announcement of the Nexus 1000V Freemium product
	Chambers declaring competition with VMware and, by extension, EMC but forgetting that customers are not financial analysts Chambers To VMware, Competitors: 'You Compete Against Cisco, You Will Lose'

Attendees




Anthony Burke
@Pandom_



Bob Plankers
@Plankers



Brent Salisbury
@NetworkStatic



Chris Marget
@ChrisMarget



Colin McNamara
@ColinMcNamara



Greg Ferro
@EtherealMind



John Harrington
@NetworkSherpa



John Herbert
@MrTugs



Michael McNamara
@mfMcNamara



Paul Stewart
@PacketU



Tom Hollingsworth
@NetworkingNerd</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>74:51</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 120 – The API Layer Cake With Dave Ward and Lauren Cooney of Cisco – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/aEHI4WUi1hw/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Ward, CTO &amp;#38; Chief Architect of the Service Provider Division at Cisco and Lauren Cooney, Senior Director of Software Market Strategy at Cisco join Packet Pushers hosts Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a discussion about software defined networking and the evolution of onePK &amp;#38; APIs. Not to put too fine a point on [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/aEHI4WUi1hw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>dave ward,ietf,interfaces to the routing system,irs,lauren cooney,networking standards,pcep,SDN,software defined networking</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Dave Ward, CTO &amp; Chief Architect of the Service Provider Division at Cisco and Lauren Cooney, Senior Director of Software Market Strategy at Cisco join Packet Pushers hosts Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a discussion about software defined networking a...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dave Ward, CTO &amp; Chief Architect of the Service Provider Division at Cisco and Lauren Cooney, Senior Director of Software Market Strategy at Cisco join Packet Pushers hosts Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks for a discussion about software defined networking and the evolution of onePK &amp; APIs.

Not to put too fine a point on it, we consider this to be an important show. A lot of what Dave and Lauren discuss on this program is future-thinking stuff, but with real meat on the bones. Dave isn't just dreaming; he's doing. Dave is right down in the guts of API development and IETF standards formation. He's got a very good idea of where software defined networking should be taking the networking industry and how APIs can get us there.
What We Discuss

	Cisco onePK - a software development toolkit providing a common data model, common object model, and common API across Cisco platforms running IOS, IOS-XR, and NX-OS.
	OnePK is a foundation technology providing an abstraction layer. It enables programmatic interfaces.
	The notion of a "network programming interface".
	How code you've written interacts with onePK agents, and ultimately with the end device.
	How interaction with legacy SNMP and onePK is different.
	What a "full duplex" interface is in the context of network programmability, and why it's really, really important.
	It's not just about logs &amp; events when it comes to our devices telling us things. It's also about topology discovery, device capabilities, state, etc.
	Where are we at with standardization of APIs? That's going to drive SDN &amp; network programmability further along if there's industry agreement of baseline functionality.
	IETF is working on IRS: Interfaces to the Routing System.
	Why OpenFlow is limiting in the long-term vision of network programmability.
	The CLI isn't the magic. Getting the job done quickly and correctly is.
	Why building an ecosystem around apps that can program the network is key.
	The five modules Dave is working on to enable third parties to integrate with a variety of underlying network services.
	The API layer cake: published APIs at the device, virtualization, and orchestration layers.
	An emerging open ecosystem that drives API development.

Quotes


	"Things don't begin and end with OpenFlow by any stretch of the imagination." - Dave Ward
	"The whole goal is not just basic connectivity - it's engineered connectivity." - Dave Ward
	"IT professionals need to be able to interact in a heterogeneous network in a standardized way and issue one command across the network to get something done." - Dave Ward


Links

	Cisco onePK
	RFC5440: Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)
	IRS: Interfaces to the Routing System mailing list
	Ask the Expert: Network Embedded Automation and Programmability (from the Cisco Support Community)
	Dave's blog article we referred to: Programmatic Interfaces Are Not Taxing
	OnePK Show with Richard Pruss</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>47:26</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 119 – Mission Impossible: Blast Radius, Part 1</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/DBh47IS6OBk/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 19:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this free-for-all hootenanny, the Packet Pushers virtual workbench assembles a team of talking heads for a podcast that was so long, we had to split it into two parts. Ethan Banks accepts the impossible mission from Mrs. Y of hosting the show, and is joined by the following folks: Greg Ferro, exposer of hyperbole &amp;#38; [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/DBh47IS6OBk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>catalyst 6500,ipv6,juniper qfabric,musk sticks,vmware fusion 5,vmware vtax</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this free-for-all hootenanny, the Packet Pushers virtual workbench assembles a team of talking heads for a podcast that was so long, we had to split it into two parts. Ethan Banks accepts the impossible mission from Mrs. Y of hosting the show,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this free-for-all hootenanny, the Packet Pushers virtual workbench assembles a team of talking heads for a podcast that was so long, we had to split it into two parts. Ethan Banks accepts the impossible mission from Mrs. Y of hosting the show, and is joined by the following folks: Greg Ferro, exposer of hyperbole &amp; fluff; Tom Hollingsworth, Kentucky-fried lie detector; Tony Bourke, part-time pilot, permanent skeptic; Kurt Bales, an Aussie who leaves no stone unturned, no kangaroo pouch unprobed; Ivan Pepelnjak, memorizer of RFCs; and the esoteric and ever dubious Mrs. Y.

What do we talk about? Why, I'm glad you asked!

	The death of the VMware vTax. Or did they just shift the revenue source somewhere else?
	Kurt talks about his new job and just how smitten he is with Juniper's QFabric. And then we follow a rabbit obediently down the hole of musk sticks.
	We pontificate about the Apple vs. Samsung ruling, and what it means for patent law.
	VMware Fusion 5 gets discussed. Is it a trap?
	Greg rants as only he can about the zombiefied Catalyst 6500, the switch that won't die.
	No one cares about IPv6. Well, okay. WE care, and we think you should too. So why is there STILL such a slow uptake? Lots of reasons, really...

P.S.
Oh. So you're probably wondering what a musk stick tastes like after our discussion on the show. Yeah...here's a picture Tony Bourke captured of Tom Hollingsworth after he tried a musk stick. That help?

Tom Hollingsworth tries a musk stick.
Picture credit: Tony Bourke.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>68:36</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 118 – Juniper MX Series – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/yIBbX77XlyY/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-118-juniper-mx-series-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In today's sponsored show we cover the Juniper MX; it's a platform that's build from the ground up to support high-density Ethernet services that can be used in both enterprise and service provider core, aggregation, and edge as well as broadband and mobile backhaul. The Juniper MX line up is as follows: MX5, MX10, MX40, MX80, MX240, MX480, and the MX960. The Juniper MX features custom built silicon called Trio which focuses on high-scale, line-rate performance, and inline services such as port mirroring, IPFIX, NAT, and GRE. There are three different categories of line cards: switching only, routing plus switching, and all of the above plus hierarchal queuing. As we say, "the line cards are full of awesome"!&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/yIBbX77XlyY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>8</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>juniper,mx,routers,series</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In today's sponsored show we cover the Juniper MX; it's a platform that's build from the ground up to support high-density Ethernet services that can be used in both enterprise and service provider core, aggregation,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In today's sponsored show we cover the Juniper MX; it's a platform that's build from the ground up to support high-density Ethernet services that can be used in both enterprise and service provider core, aggregation, and edge as well as broadband and mobile backhaul. The Juniper MX line up is as follows: MX5, MX10, MX40, MX80, MX240, MX480, and the MX960. The Juniper MX features custom built silicon called Trio which focuses on high-scale, line-rate performance, and inline services such as port mirroring, IPFIX, NAT, and GRE. There are three different categories of line cards: switching only, routing plus switching, and all of the above plus hierarchal queuing. As we say, "the line cards are full of awesome"!</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>48:09</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 117 – A Rope, a Chair and Helping Hands – Sue Hares and the IETF</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/wnhzg5mxBjg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-117-a-rope-a-chair-and-helping-hands-sue-hares-and-the-ietf/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue Hares &amp;#8211; Long term Internet and IETF person plus BGP RFC author joins us to talk about routing protocols and life when developing routing protocols like BGP. In a wide ranging discussion we talk about software defined networking and impact on routing protocols. Sue is art of the IDR Working Group and particularly involved [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/wnhzg5mxBjg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Sue Hares - Long term Internet and IETF person plus BGP RFC author joins us to talk about routing protocols and life when developing routing protocols like BGP. In a wide ranging discussion we talk about software defined networking and impact on routin...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Sue Hares - Long term Internet and IETF person plus BGP RFC author joins us to talk about routing protocols and life when developing routing protocols like BGP. In a wide ranging discussion we talk about software defined networking and impact on routing protocols.

Sue is art of the IDR Working Group and particularly involved with the IRS (Interface to the Routing System) and joined us at 1am local time after travelling for many ours. Thanks to Sue talking with us.

People on the show where Russ White, Sue Hares, Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro.

 
Show Notes
Interface to the Routing System Framework http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ward-irs-framework/

Interface to the Routing System Problem Statement http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-atlas-irs-problem-statement/

A Policy Framework for the Interface to the Routing System - http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-atlas-irs-policy-framework-00

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss

 

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		<title>Show 116 – Statseeker and Network Monitoring – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/PAIGlDvarPg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-116-statseeker-and-network-monitoring-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>This week’s show was sponsored by Statseeker. If you are tired of having 90% of your switch interfaces NOT being monitored; or if you are tired of having your historical snmp data “rolled up”, then take a look at Statseeker. With Statseeker users already monitoring 23 million interfaces, every minute, while never rolling up the [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/PAIGlDvarPg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week’s show was sponsored by Statseeker. If you are tired of having 90% of your switch interfaces NOT being monitored; or if you are tired of having your historical snmp data “rolled up”, then take a look at Statseeker.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week’s show was sponsored by Statseeker. If you are tired of having 90% of your switch interfaces NOT being monitored; or if you are tired of having your historical snmp data “rolled up”, then take a look at Statseeker. With Statseeker users already monitoring 23 million interfaces, every minute, while never rolling up the history, Statseeker provides Industrial Strength Performance Monitoring with real time reporting.

It IS possible to monitor every interface, on every device, in every site, every minute, while keeping all historical data, and having it available within seconds. You don’t have to go through life frustrated that the user is complaining and your monitoring tool is not seeing the issue.

Head over the Statseeker.com to get more information and to download a Free Trial version that you can setup and be using in minutes. You can also contact them to arrange a sales call (get this, they use the Internet via Webex - it's a revolution)
Download Powerpoint
Here is a few pages on some of the key facts around Statseeker and where it fits into your Network management strategy.

Statseeker - why it is unique
Video Presentation</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>28:54</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 115 – What the FEX ? Cisco UCS</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/We17Zoqc1oo/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-115-what-the-fex-cisco-ucs-networking/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Tony Bourke puts on this Cisco UCS super defeneder costume to talk about Cisco and FEX Networking. We also deviate into discussion Nicira acquisution by VMware.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/We17Zoqc1oo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco,FEX,networking,ucs,virtual</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Tony Bourke puts on this Cisco UCS super defeneder costume to talk about Cisco and FEX Networking. We also deviate into discussion Nicira acquisution by VMware.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tony Bourke puts on this Cisco UCS super defeneder costume to talk about Cisco and FEX Networking. We also deviate into discussion Nicira acquisution by VMware.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>73:46</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 114 – Real-Life CCNP With Jeremy Cioara</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/U8MAJRb9yd8/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-114-real-life-ccnp-with-jeremy-cioara/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Jeremy Cioara, IT trainer, uber-nerd, and all-around Cisco geek jacks into a Skype conference room with Packet Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) program. Scott McDermott, newly minted CCNP, also joins in the conversation to share his studying and testing experiences. We don&amp;#8217;t just yammer on about [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/U8MAJRb9yd8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>19</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>ccnp,certification,cisco,jeremy cioara,scott mcdermott</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Jeremy Cioara, IT trainer, uber-nerd, and all-around Cisco geek jacks into a Skype conference room with Packet Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) program. Scott McDermott, newly minted CCNP,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Jeremy Cioara, IT trainer, uber-nerd, and all-around Cisco geek jacks into a Skype conference room with Packet Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) program. Scott McDermott, newly minted CCNP, also joins in the conversation to share his studying and testing experiences. We don't just yammer on about the tests, though. We also talk about the practical side of being certified, and how you can move ahead in your networking career using certification as a vehicle.
What We Discuss

	Why get certified anyway? What's the big deal?
	Who is the CCNP program aimed at?
	Why do most people do route/switch tracks before other tracks like voice or security?
	Greg has no use for VoIP. No, really. He doesn't.
	What's the best order to take the CCNP route/switch exams in?
	How do you turn a certification into a better job situation?
	9-to-5-ers vs. people who love networking: which are you?

Links

	Cisco's CCNP certification program landing page.
	Cisco CCNP Routing &amp; Switching syllabus.
	CBTNuggets.com - streaming IT training on computers and mobile devices.
	Jeremy Cioara blogs sporadically at tekcert.com.
	Scott McDermott blogs at mostlynetworks.com.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>57:06</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 113 – IETF 84 Wrap Up With Russ White – Audio Fixed</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/UloRAT-hCJc/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-113-ietf-84-wrap-up-with-russ-white/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Talking with Russ White about the some of the topics at the IETF 84 meeting at Vancouver last week.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/UloRAT-hCJc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>ietf,Protocols,routing,standards</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Talking with Russ White about the some of the topics at the IETF 84 meeting at Vancouver last week.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Talking with Russ White about the some of the topics at the IETF 84 meeting at Vancouver last week.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>41:36</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 112 – SDN’s Potential as a Displacement Technology With Jeff Doyle &amp; Bill Koss</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/8P_hsf-fELw/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-112-sdns-potential-as-a-displacement-technology-with-jeff-doyle-bill-koss/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-known author and independent consultant Jeff Doyle joins Bill Koss of networking startup Plexxi as first time guests on the Packet Pushers podcast. Ethan Banks hosts, and Greg Ferro plays the role of in-house opinion-maker, trend-setter, and fashion icon. What We Discuss Let&amp;#8217;s define SDN (again), because the definition has been shifting around as different [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/8P_hsf-fELw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>bill koss,cloud,ethernet fabric,jeff doyle,openflow,plexxi,SDN,spb,trill</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Well-known author and independent consultant Jeff Doyle joins Bill Koss of networking startup Plexxi as first time guests on the Packet Pushers podcast. Ethan Banks hosts, and Greg Ferro plays the role of in-house opinion-maker, trend-setter,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Well-known author and independent consultant Jeff Doyle joins Bill Koss of networking startup Plexxi as first time guests on the Packet Pushers podcast. Ethan Banks hosts, and Greg Ferro plays the role of in-house opinion-maker, trend-setter, and fashion icon.
What We Discuss

	Let's define SDN (again), because the definition has been shifting around as different vendors get into the mix.
	Is Cisco's push towards network programmability changing how customers perceive SDN?
	If SDN ends up as merely fancy change management or service provisioning, is that really disruptive?
	Assuming MPLS is overly complex for a data center deployment, does that point to an Openflow use-case?
	Why can't the network function like the other technology in an IT department?
	There's many pieces that must be put into place before SDN can start disrupting the status quo.
	The importance of analytics engines as arbiters between network infrastructure (here's what I have) and applications (here's what I need).
	What's the relevance of legacy protocols like BGP and OSPF if we're trying to reinvent the network to be software defined?
	Risk aversion has resulted in 20 years of network inertia &amp; fragility. How does that change to open the door to SDN approaches?
	Teetering mountains of complicated code has built the network of today, but you can push it over with simple human error. And that's bad.
	Is it reasonable to expect large networking companies to provide SDN leadership?
	Centralized or distributed controllers? Which is a better fit for SDN and why?
	If you look at spending, it's not all about cloud providers. It's about the enterprise. So why so much focus on the cloudy corner cases?
	If a bold new software defined network design gains favor, what does that mean for Ethernet fabrics and related technologies such as TRILL, DCB, 802.1BR, and SPB?

Links

	Bill Koss's Blog
	Plexxi
	Jeff Doyle's Books
	Packet Pushers Podcast on Cisco onePK
	Ned Hooper Left Cisco

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		<itunes:duration>65:26</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 111 – BYOD Isn’t a Technology Problem It’s a Management Issue</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/jMHrWyKrCdo/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-111-byod-isnt-technology-problem-its-a-management-issue/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week it's about BYOD. The user driven IT fad that everyone is talking about as consumer devices offers features that corporate IT cannot hope to deliver. Or can they ? Can a slow moving, underfunded, under resourced IT department that is lumbered with low quality products from Microsoft deliver a viable solution ? Can that the spawn of add ons to keep it somewhat secure from users who don't care, will users pay for what they use, and will IT Management be able to step up their game and manage the network of the future ?&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/jMHrWyKrCdo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<slash:comments>7</slash:comments>

			<itunes:keywords>byod,podcast,Remote access,security</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This week it's about BYOD. The user driven IT fad that everyone is talking about as consumer devices offers features that corporate IT cannot hope to deliver. Or can they ? Can a slow moving, underfunded, under resourced IT department that is lumbered ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week it's about BYOD. The user driven IT fad that everyone is talking about as consumer devices offers features that corporate IT cannot hope to deliver. Or can they ? Can a slow moving, underfunded, under resourced IT department that is lumbered with low quality products from Microsoft deliver a viable solution ? Can that the spawn of add ons to keep it somewhat secure from users who don't care, will users pay for what they use, and will IT Management be able to step up their game and manage the network of the future ?</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>91:13</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 110 – Live From the CLUS 2012 Social Media Lounge</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 07:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Cisco Live 2012 in San Diego, we tweeted that anyone interested could gather at the Social Media Lounge to record a podcast with the Packet Pushers and No Strings Attached shows. Perhaps 20 people showed up at the beginning, but by the end I think double that number had wandered up and joined the [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/xl21aU4MV2Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>ccar,ccie,cisco,cisco cloud services router,cisco live 2012,clus,elitist bloggers,onepk,social media tweetup</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>At Cisco Live 2012 in San Diego, we tweeted that anyone interested could gather at the Social Media Lounge to record a podcast with the Packet Pushers and No Strings Attached shows. Perhaps 20 people showed up at the beginning,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>At Cisco Live 2012 in San Diego, we tweeted that anyone interested could gather at the Social Media Lounge to record a podcast with the Packet Pushers and No Strings Attached shows. Perhaps 20 people showed up at the beginning, but by the end I think double that number had wandered up and joined the crowd. The show was recorded by Blake Krone and me. We each had hand-held microphones and walked over to folks as they were speaking. There was a lot of good conversation and opinion, along with some laughs.
What We Discussed

	Is Cisco trying to redefine the SDN market with their "network programmability" approach?
	A Cisco app store &amp; community to encourage onePK adoption seems necessary. Or should we (the networking community) build our own code exchange?
	Are you a programmer? What languages are your familiar with?
	Why is an API is better than SNMP?
	There are security concerns around community-based code sharing. What do we do about that?
	C &amp; Java are the first languages to support onePK. What languages are next, and when?
	The Cisco Cloud Services Router: opinions &amp; use-cases.
	Is there a license-limited version of CSR or some other IOS flavor coming so that engineers can build labs in a Cisco-sanctioned way?
	Will onePK introduce a whole new class of bugs? What about bugs introduced by users writing their own apps?
	BreakingPoint - cool product seen on the CLUS "World of Solutions" show floor.
	CCDE &amp; CCAr: why is a CCIE not a prerequisite?
	CiscoLive365.com - the place to get video and slide presentations from Cisco Live.


Quotable Quotes


	"Simple is stable." - Marko Milivojevic
	"You should not care where your workload sits." - Omar Sultan
	"Complexity goes against robustness." - Tony Mattke
	"You can take a unicorn to water, but you can't make it drink." - Omar Sultan
	"When it comes to certifications, it's time we stop drawing a pyramid, and start drawing a tree." - Brandon Carroll
	"CCIE is not really that difficult. All you have to do is not fail the test." - Marko Milivojevic

Voices (in order of appearance)

	Ethan Banks (co-host for this show)
@ecbanks
packetpushers.net/author/ecbanks
	Colin McNamara
@colinmcnamara
colinmcnamara.com
	Tom Hollingsworth
@networkingnerd
networkingnerd.net
	Blake Krone (co-host for this show)
@blakekrone
nostringsattachedshow.com
blakekrone.com
	Justin (no last name given)
@grinthock
	Darrel Clute
@darrelclute
darrelclute.net
	Jennifer Huber
@jenniferlucille
jenniferhuber.blogspot.com
	Ben Story
@ntwrk80
showbrain.blogspot.com
	Kellen Christensen
@kdc824
christekit.com
	Tony Mattke
@tonhe
routerjockey.com
	Omar Sultan (Senior Manager for Emerging Technologies, Cisco)
@omarsultan
blogs.cisco.com/author/OmarSultan
	Greg Ferro
@etherealmind
etherealmind.com
	Marko Milivojevic
@icemarkom
blog.markom.info
	Christopher Church
@layer_3
layer3.wordpress.com
	Tristan Rhodes
@tristanbob
	Brandon Carroll
@brandoncarroll
brandonjcarroll.com

There's a few of you I missed because we didn't get an intro from you when recording. You know who you are, so if you want to be listed, please let me know!</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>59:53</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 109 – Knowing Why – Cisco Certification Roundtable From CLUS 2012</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/wbwVWjU9gmk/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-109-knowing-why-cisco-certification-roundtable-from-clus-2012/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this show recorded at Cisco Live US 2012, we put mics in the middle of a big table and had a Cisco certification roundtable chat. These folks, probably all well-known to the Packet Pushers audience, offered up program updates as well as real-world advice that will help IT professionals working on certifications. Oh, and [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/wbwVWjU9gmk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>ccde,ccie,ccna,ccnp,ciscopress,clus 2012,it certification,natalie timms,russ white,scott morris,wendell odom</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this show recorded at Cisco Live US 2012, we put mics in the middle of a big table and had a Cisco certification roundtable chat. These folks, probably all well-known to the Packet Pushers audience, offered up program updates as well as real-world a...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this show recorded at Cisco Live US 2012, we put mics in the middle of a big table and had a Cisco certification roundtable chat. These folks, probably all well-known to the Packet Pushers audience, offered up program updates as well as real-world advice that will help IT professionals working on certifications. Oh, and we had a lot of laughs along the way - hope you don't mind. ;-)

	Amy Arnold
	Ethan Banks
	Greg Ferro
	Tom Hollingsworth
	Scott Morris
	Wendell Odom
	Natalie Timms
	Russ White

We  focus on the recent CCIE Security 4.0 track announcement, updates to the CCDE program, study strategies, the true benefits of IT certifications, and what the changing networking landscape means to folks who are just getting started in their networking careers. All in all, this is a fun show with practical value, some humor, and great perspective brought to the table by folks with many years of experience working in and contributing to the networking community.</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>54:16</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 108 – Wireshark With Gerald Combs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald Coombs is Wireshark. From the original project that started over 15 years ago as Ethereal, Gerald has been leading the development of the Open Source packet sniffer that has become the standard tool for all network engineers.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/aLnxyJ5QCvA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>ethernet,networking,packet,troubleshooting</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Gerald Coombs is Wireshark. From the original project that started over 15 years ago as Ethereal, Gerald has been leading the development of the Open Source packet sniffer that has become the standard tool for all network engineers.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Gerald Coombs is Wireshark. From the original project that started over 15 years ago as Ethereal, Gerald has been leading the development of the Open Source packet sniffer that has become the standard tool for all network engineers.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>61:16</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 107 – Cisco Software Defined Networking Strategy With Omar Sultan – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/ttsETxknug0/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-107-cisco-software-defined-networking-sdn-strategy-with-omar-sultan-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As part of the Packet Pushers Cisco Live 2012 Tour, we sat down with Omar Sultan to provide an overview of Cisco&amp;#8217;s SDN Strategy. Ethan &amp;#38; Greg are joined by Derick Winkworth to talk about what Software Defined Networking means to us as Network Engineers. Cisco&amp;#8217;s SDN strategy is a complex, multi-level approach to addressing [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ttsETxknug0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco,design,openflow,SDN</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>As part of the Packet Pushers Cisco Live 2012 Tour, we sat down with Omar Sultan to provide an overview of Cisco's SDN Strategy. Ethan &amp; Greg are joined by Derick Winkworth to talk about what Software Defined Networking means to us as Network Engineers.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>As part of the Packet Pushers Cisco Live 2012 Tour, we sat down with Omar Sultan to provide an overview of Cisco's SDN Strategy. Ethan &amp; Greg are joined by Derick Winkworth to talk about what Software Defined Networking means to us as Network Engineers.

Cisco's SDN strategy is a complex, multi-level approach to addressing the SDN Challenge. It's not just about OpenFlow, or controller based networking. We have a number of shows where we investigate the many aspects of this SDN approach but this is an overview of how SDN will affect our designs and work lives.

Is this a response to the popular concept of minimalist and low cost networking, or does Cisco's approach focus on the diversity of customers that have different needs. You could be cynical and point out that Cisco is vested in maintaining it's existing portfolio of products with complex software or you could consider the alternate view and regard these as service that Cisco can offer via an API to software controller.

So, not so much technical, but coverage of a complex topic that we will be arguing about for months to come.
Show Notes
Cisco Open Network Environment, Explained - blog post by Omar introducing the One Network Environment

Dericks overview of what SDN means to him IT Is Dead. All Hail Systems Engineering!

Greg wrote last week about Networking Vendors Should Step Up With an SDN Strategy - Cisco has brought their SDN plans to the table and are attempting, at least, to spell out all the parts that are needed.

Dave Ward from Cisco - Is it Just Software Defined Networks (SDN)? - although Dave has a Service Provider focus there is  lot of good information in here.
Disclosure
Packet Pushers was commissioned by Cisco Data Centre and Virtualisation Business Unit to attend Cisco Live 2012 and discuss Cisco's Software Defined Networking launch as a sponsored service. We have covered the event by recording several shows, attended briefings and more.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 106 – Cisco Nexus Buyer’s Guide – Deep-Dive Series Kickoff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this show, Ethan Banks is joined by Tony Mattke, Chris Marget, and Jeff Fry to kick off a deep-dive series about the Cisco Nexus product line. Nexus gear is making frequent appearances in Cisco shops these days, as enterprises and service providers refresh their aging Catalyst hardware. The Nexus line keeps growing and changing [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/pCiMnLS4utI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco nexus buyer's guide</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this show, Ethan Banks is joined by Tony Mattke, Chris Marget, and Jeff Fry to kick off a deep-dive series about the Cisco Nexus product line. Nexus gear is making frequent appearances in Cisco shops these days,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this show, Ethan Banks is joined by Tony Mattke, Chris Marget, and Jeff Fry to kick off a deep-dive series about the Cisco Nexus product line. Nexus gear is making frequent appearances in Cisco shops these days, as enterprises and service providers refresh their aging Catalyst hardware. The Nexus line keeps growing and changing both in hardware and capability, so we're taking a look at what's going on under the covers, telling the story from our own personal Nexus experience.

This first installment is a buyer's guide. We run through all the major Nexus products, and talk through speeds and feeds, power considerations, line card capabilities, costs, market positioning, product licensing, and even touch on the management software.
Links
Cisco's Nexus Jump Page</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 105 – BGP Origin Validation With Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI)</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/4Be2SpnUY7U/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again we are talking about the Internet and moves that are underway in the Routing Internet Registries to add more security to BGP routing that underpins that Internet. This is known as BGP Origin Validation using RPKI.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/4Be2SpnUY7U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Once again we are talking about the Internet and moves that are underway in the Routing Internet Registries to add more security to BGP routing that underpins that Internet. This is known as BGP Origin Validation using RPKI.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Once again we are talking about the Internet and moves that are underway in the Routing Internet Registries to add more security to BGP routing that underpins that Internet. This is known as BGP Origin Validation using RPKI.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 104 – Is SDN a TRILL Killer?</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/DzlYKQ0nbbA/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 16:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ferro &amp;#38; Ethan Banks conclude their chat begun in Show 103 &amp;#8211; Choking on Cookies, but take the conversation in a different direction. What We Discuss TRILL &amp;#38; SPB &amp;#8211; are they competing or complimentary? Or aimed at different markets? If SDN really gets a strong foothold in the marketplace because of excellent applications, [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/DzlYKQ0nbbA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Greg Ferro &amp; Ethan Banks conclude their chat begun in Show 103 - Choking on Cookies, but take the conversation in a different direction. What We Discuss  TRILL &amp; SPB - are they competing or complimentary? Or aimed at different markets? </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Greg Ferro &amp; Ethan Banks conclude their chat begun in Show 103 - Choking on Cookies, but take the conversation in a different direction.
What We Discuss

	TRILL &amp; SPB - are they competing or complimentary? Or aimed at different markets?
	If SDN really gets a strong foothold in the marketplace because of excellent applications, what might that mean for TRILL and SPB?
	What has Google *really* demonstrated with their OpenFlow announcement? And what does that mean for the rest of us?
	If you buy an SDN-based "network-in-a-box" that's a proprietary vendor solution, what happens to your skill set?
	SDN is early right now. Can we tell where it's going to take the industry?
	A useful application for SDN: end-to-end flow analysis (instead of point-in-time flow analysis).
	TRILL would pick up steam if Cisco reduced the prohibitive cost of licensing FabricPath.

Links
Show 44 - The Case For Shortest Path Briding

Fake Name Generator</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>42:38</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 103 – Choking on Cookies</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/M_COavSoeUQ/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-103-choking-on-cookies/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Podcast hosts Ethan Banks &amp;#38; Greg Ferro have a good old-fashioned chinwag about things that are on their minds in this, the first of a two-part podcast. Part two should be published later during the week of 20-May-2012 as Show 104. Stay tuned! What We Discuss Long-term goals for the Packet Pushers Podcast. How you can [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/M_COavSoeUQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>browser cookies,Cisco Systems,ethan banks,ghostery,greg ferro,social media</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Podcast hosts Ethan Banks &amp; Greg Ferro have a good old-fashioned chinwag about things that are on their minds in this, the first of a two-part podcast. Part two should be published later during the week of 20-May-2012 as Show 104. Stay tuned! </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Podcast hosts Ethan Banks &amp; Greg Ferro have a good old-fashioned chinwag about things that are on their minds in this, the first of a two-part podcast. Part two should be published later during the week of 20-May-2012 as Show 104. Stay tuned!
What We Discuss

	Long-term goals for the Packet Pushers Podcast.
	How you can stay in touch with the show these days.
	How we usually record &amp; produce the show.
	We talk about Cisco: issues of vendor trust, resellers, licensing, and overlapping product choices.
	The advantages of buying an integrated solution like vBlock.
	How companies gather information through your browser and use it to build a very personal profile about YOU.

Links

	Ethan's article on Cisco, trust, and brand inertia.
	Cookie Monster - a manager for the cookies created by the most usual Windows browsers: Internet Explorer, Firefox, Google Chrome, Mozilla and Opera (only basic support for this one).
	Ghostery - a browser tool available for Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera and Internet Explorer. It scans the page for scripts, pixels, and other elements and notifies the user of the companies whose code is present on the page.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>42:35</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 102 – A Layer of Indirection: Is MPLS Tunneling?</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/CknvYB22Ka0/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 02:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks dive into a deep, dark hole of nerdery with Ivan Pepelnjak, Marko Milivojevic, and Petr Lapukov to see if we can decide whether or not MPLS is tunneling. We plumb the depths of packet and frame formatting, compare and contrast various technologies, toss different scenarios around, contradict one another, and throw [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/CknvYB22Ka0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks dive into a deep, dark hole of nerdery with Ivan Pepelnjak, Marko Milivojevic, and Petr Lapukov to see if we can decide whether or not MPLS is tunneling. We plumb the depths of packet and frame formatting,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks dive into a deep, dark hole of nerdery with Ivan Pepelnjak, Marko Milivojevic, and Petr Lapukov to see if we can decide whether or not MPLS is tunneling. We plumb the depths of packet and frame formatting, compare and contrast various technologies, toss different scenarios around, contradict one another, and throw buckets of cold water all over the place. In the end, we think we have an answer. So put the kids to bed, cram in your earbuds, and visualize the virtual whiteboard. Close your eyes...focus...there it is! All that's missing is the smell of dry erase markers.
What We Talk About
In the witty opening banter, we find out Greg is an Interop judge, Petr works on something called "Bing", and Marko is teaching the first CCIE ever a thing or two. Oh, and who WAS the first CCIE anyway? Hint - not our friend Terry. Not quite. From here, the show gets serious, and includes the following topics:

	Foundations: circuits vs. connections vs connectionless.
	How is a tunnel different from a virtual circuit?
	How do we say that a circuit has "state"?
	We could think of a tunnel as "a layer of forwarding indirection".
	The tricky business of distinguishing between the OSI model (classical layering) vs. what we normally consider tunnels.
	Now wait a minute...could MPLS be considered NAT in a certain sense?
	So...maybe a tunnel is tunnel when you see the same protocol twice in the header.
	Redefining a tunnel as "a layer of frozen interaction".
	MPLS is not exactly L2 or L3. It's a total layering violation.
	How do CRC checks impact our definition of tunneling?
	Isn't it time for a new networking model?

Once we've hammered through all of that, we loop back around to review why we had the chat. The question comes back up - why are we reinventing the wheel in data center networking? Couldn't an MPLS application be written to do many of the same things the explosion of overlay protocols are doing? Or would we have scalability problems?

 </itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 101 – Brocade Virtual Symposium Part 1 – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/wjMCGoU07TU/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-101-brocade-virtual-symposium-ethernet-fabrics-sponsored/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing the Brocade Virtual Symposium. In a special video session, we brought Chip Copper from Brocade into a room to talk about four key areas of Brocade&amp;#8217;s Ethernet Fabric. The first episode is this weeks Packet Pushers Podcast. The session is discussing just &amp;#8220;What is an Ethernet Fabric&amp;#8221; and digging into how Brocade implements their [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/wjMCGoU07TU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>brocade, Ethernet, fabric, design, trill, network, design,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Introducing the Brocade Virtual Symposium. In a special video session, we brought Chip Copper from Brocade into a room to talk about four key areas of Brocade's Ethernet Fabric. The first episode is this weeks Packet Pushers Podcast. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Introducing the Brocade Virtual Symposium. In a special video session, we brought Chip Copper from Brocade into a room to talk about four key areas of Brocade's Ethernet Fabric. The first episode is this weeks Packet Pushers Podcast.

The session is discussing just "What is an Ethernet Fabric" and digging into how Brocade implements their Ethernet Fabric strategy. In the weeks ahead, we will publish three more sessions. In the second session, we had a discussion of Converged Storage with FCoE and for IP Storage protocols. The third session looks at Mulitchassis and Multipath as an alternative or a complement to Ethernet Fabric led by Greg Ferro and we dig in to the features. The fourth and final session titled "Hard Cores and Soft Edges" where Ivan Peplnjak leads the discussion about Automated Migration of Port Profiles (AMPP) and how Brocade has a soft switching solution to fully integrate with VMware.



This discussion on "What is an Ethernet Fabric" covered the following broad areas:

	we kicked off with a short presentation
	How we could improve Ethernet of today by looking at its weaknesses
	Spanning Tree means unused bandwidth and forced tree design.
	Insights on Brocade Ethernet Fabric Architecture
	How a Brocade Ethernet Fabric improves utilisation and delivers resilience by auto-healing.

Hosted by Greg Ferro, Stephen Foskett, Ivan Pepelnjak, Ethan Banks and Brandon Carroll. Thanks to them for their time.
Session 2: Converged Storage – Hosted by Stephen Foskett

	Acknowledging the value of FC but focussing on Ethernet/IP storage
	What are the emerging workloads that make Ethernet storage compelling. and how do Fabrics play in that arena.
	SSD performance driving high speed.
	Big Data driving cluster networking

Session 3: Multipath versus Multichassis – Hosted by Greg Ferro
Emerging layer-2 multipath technologies introduce the multipathing, fast failure recovery, and optimum bandwidth utilization we’ve always enjoyed in the IP world to the Ethernet layer-2 forwarding, allowing the data center architects to build large-scale (multipath) layer-2 solutions that approach the efficiency of layer-3 networks.

Some vendors are proposing an alternate solution: using multi-chassis link aggregation (MLAG) they’re building a virtual star topology that retains the redundancy and optimum bandwidth utilization requirements, and minimizes the impact of link outages without introducing new technologies.

	Brocade's strategy of “revolution through evolution”
	Virtual chassis technology
	Brocade Virtual Cluster Switching Technical Architecture
	Transparent LAN service
	Virtual link aggregation groups (vLAGs)
	Distributed configuration management (virtual Chassis)
	ECMP / TRILL

Session 4: Hard Cores / Soft Edges – Hosted by Ivan Pepelnjak
Brocade Automatic Migration of Port Profiles (AMPP) and VM-Aware Network Automation features enable customers to fully align virtual server and network infrastructure resources and realize the full benefits of server virtualization.
Brocade VM-Aware Network Automation provides secure connectivity and full visibility to virtualized resources with dynamic learning and activation of port profiles. In VMware environments, the Brocade VCS fabric communicates directly with VMware vCenter ™ to eliminate manual configuration of port profiles. Brocade VCS fabric also supports VM mobility across VCS fabrics within a data center, while providing protection against VM MAC spoofing. Additional VMware vCenter integration with Brocade Network Advisor provides another layer of intelligence to network administrators.b0cca9cf19624a3036c03424f68b6a3e
We will be announcing more sessions over the next three weeks, stay tuned for more details on them. Thanks to Brocade for supporting the Packet Pushers by sponsoring a new type of marketing event. You can send Ethan and I feedback at packetpushers@gmail.com.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 100 – Live at Network Field Day Three – Video</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/q17zIsKPqKo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Network Field Day Three meant that a lot of regular guests on Packet Pushers were in the same room at the same time. And that room was full of cameras, microphones and a crew to run it!! So we recorded a Packet Pushers Live - the first ever show in video as Show 100.

That's right - 100 shows! Two years since we started, about 6000 downloads per show and more than 50000 downloads a month.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/q17zIsKPqKo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Network Field Day Three meant that a lot of regular guests on Packet Pushers were in the same room at the same time. And that room was full of cameras, microphones and a crew to run it!! So we recorded a Packet Pushers Live - the first ever show in vid...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Network Field Day Three meant that a lot of regular guests on Packet Pushers were in the same room at the same time. And that room was full of cameras, microphones and a crew to run it!! So we recorded a Packet Pushers Live - the first ever show in video as Show 100.

That's right - 100 shows! Two years since we started, about 6000 downloads per show and more than 50000 downloads a month.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<title>Show 99 – I Always Use a VPN – Thomas D’Otreppe – Aircrack-NG – OpenWIPS-NG</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/b5uSmUk4TDI/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week we are talking to Thomas d&amp;#8217;Otreppe, author of Aircrack-NG and OpenWIPS-NG about his Open Source project and what they do ? AirCrack-NG Aircrack “Aircrack-ng is an 802.11 WEP and WPA-PSK keys cracking program that can recover keys once enough data packets have been captured. It implements the standard FMS attack along with some [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/b5uSmUk4TDI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>analysis,packet capture,security,wireless</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This week we are talking to Thomas d'Otreppe, author of Aircrack-NG and OpenWIPS-NG about his Open Source project and what they do ? AirCrack-NG Aircrack - “Aircrack-ng is an 802.11 WEP and WPA-PSK keys cracking program that can recover keys onc...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we are talking to Thomas d'Otreppe, author of Aircrack-NG and OpenWIPS-NG about his Open Source project and what they do ?


AirCrack-NG
Aircrack

“Aircrack-ng is an 802.11 WEP and WPA-PSK keys cracking program that can recover keys once enough data packets have been captured. It implements the standard FMS attack along with some optimizations like KoreK attacks, as well as the all-new PTW attack, thus making the attack much faster compared to other WEP cracking tools. In fact, Aircrack-ng is a set of tools for auditing wireless networks.”
OpenWIPS
OpenWips

“OpenWIPS-ng is an open source and modular Wireless IPS (Intrusion Prevention System). It is composed of three parts:

	Sensor(s): "Dumb" devices that capture wireless traffic and sends it to the server for analysis. Also responds to attacks.
	Server: Aggregates the data from all sensors, analyzes it and responds to attacks. It also logs and alerts in case of an attack.
	Interface: GUI manages the server and displays information about the threats on your wireless network(s).”

Components of Aircrack-NG:

	Aircrack-ng (cracking WEP, WPA/WPA2)
	airodump-ng
	airmon-ng
	airbase-ng
	aireplay-ng
	airtun-ng

General Topics

	Comparison of Kismet and Aircrack-NG and OpenWIPS-NG.
	use case and features for Wireless and Network Security Engineers.
	Call for volunteers on the project! You can also find more about Thomas at WiFu

MEME: I don’t always use wireless at the airport...but when I do, I use VPN.
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		<title>Show 96 – Hack the Hackers: Fyodor on Nmap &amp; The Security Industry</title>
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		<description>Michele Chubirka (our very own Mrs. Y), Greg Ferro, and Ethan Banks gather *in person* with very special guest Gordon &amp;#8220;Fyodor&amp;#8221; Lyon. Fyodor is the author of Nmap, for many years the tool of choice to perform network scanning. The four of us chat about Nmap, being a security practitioner, and goings-on in the security business. [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/cLavxpMo1sw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Michele Chubirka (our very own Mrs. Y), Greg Ferro, and Ethan Banks gather *in person* with very special guest Gordon "Fyodor" Lyon. Fyodor is the author of Nmap, for many years the tool of choice to perform network scanning.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Michele Chubirka (our very own Mrs. Y), Greg Ferro, and Ethan Banks gather *in person* with very special guest Gordon "Fyodor" Lyon. Fyodor is the author of Nmap, for many years the tool of choice to perform network scanning. The four of us chat about Nmap, being a security practitioner, and goings-on in the security business.
What We Discuss

	Nmap's 15th birthday.
	The new version of Nmap 5.61 test 5 soon to be released.
	What does Nmap do?
	Host detection.
	OS detection using heuristics and fingerprinting.
	What's Zenmap?
	NSE, the Nmap scripting engine.
	Is it a good or bad thing that other folks bundle Nmap with their products?
	Nmap's dual licensing scheme (open source vs. commercial entities).
	Who's working on Nmap these days?
	What language do you have to know to use NSE?
	What are the new features we'll see in the upcoming version of Nmap?
	The trouble with scanning IPv6 address ranges.
	Why is there a perception that IPv6 is less secure than IPv4?
	IPv5 trivia.
	Why have we had so many big security breaches lately?
	Is there a disconnect between application developers and IT practitioners?
	Greg's pet theory of active security and passive security.
	Did you know that Nmap has an tool called Ndiff that will show you variances in scan results from one day to the next?
	Evading the notice of intrusion detection devices &amp; firewalls.
	Does it make sense to patrol outside of the perimeter (i.e. an IDS outside the firewall)?
	The challenge of sorting through huge amounts of log data.
	Just how do we protect our intellectual property from hackers with abilities like Fyodor's?
	Are honeypots useful?
	How well are OS vendors patching themselves, and how much is it helping?
	Why do we keep working around our own security tools?

Links

	Nmap - free and open source utility for network exploration or security auditing.
	Zenmap - the official Nmap Security Scanner GUI.
	Ndiff - a tool to aid in the comparison of Nmap scans.
	Metasploit - helps security and IT professionals identify security issues, verify vulnerability mitigations, and manage expert-driven security assessments.
	insecure.org - Fyodor's blog.
	Nmap Network Scanning: The Official Nmap Project Guide to Network Discovery and Security Scanning - Fyodor's book.
	Tor Project - Protect your privacy. Defend yourself against network surveillance and traffic analysis.
	Greg's blog post on IPv5 - yes, really.
	Thin-slicing - a term used in psychology and philosophy to describe the ability to find patterns in events based only on "thin slices," or narrow windows, of experience (from Wikipedia).
	The Honeynet Project - to learn the tools, tactics and motives involved in computer and network attacks, and share the lessons learned.
	Nmap's page on the Google Summer of Code - try coding for Nmap for a summer instead of flipping burgers! Apply by April 6, 2012 to be considered for this summer.
	twitter.com/nmap
	facebook.com/nmap
	Nmap Hackers mailing list

Sponsors
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OpenGear - This week’s show was sponsored in part by Opengear, experts in out-of-band management.  Visit www.opengear.com to learn about secure, next generation management appliances that provide lights out access to network equipment even when the primary link is down.  Tell them you heard of their solutions from Packet Pushers for a free t-shirt.</itunes:summary>
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		<description>Ethan Banks and Michele Chubirka (aka Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess) have a relaxed chinwag with Doug Burks, Deputy Chief Security Officer at Mandiant, community instructor for SANS, and the man behind Security Onion. What is Security Onion? To quote Doug&amp;#8217;s website&amp;#8230; Security Onion is a Linux distro for IDS (Intrusion Detection) and NSM [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/zCsEWf8hJao" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Ethan Banks and Michele Chubirka (aka Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess) have a relaxed chinwag with Doug Burks, Deputy Chief Security Officer at Mandiant, community instructor for SANS, and the man behind Security Onion. What is Security Onion?</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Ethan Banks and Michele Chubirka (aka Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess) have a relaxed chinwag with Doug Burks, Deputy Chief Security Officer at Mandiant, community instructor for SANS, and the man behind Security Onion. What is Security Onion? To quote Doug's website...
Security Onion is a Linux distro for IDS (Intrusion Detection) and NSM (Network Security Monitoring). It's based on Xubuntu 10.04 and contains Snort, Suricata, Sguil, Squert, Snorby, Bro, NetworkMiner, Xplico, and many other security tools, all wrapped up with an easy-to-use Setup wizard.
What We Discuss

	What was the driver that brought about the creation of Security Onion?
	What security functions does Security Onion include?
	Why is there such an emphasis on intrusion detection as opposed to intrusion prevention with this distro?
	How is an IPS like a firewall?
	Why does it make sense for an enterprise to have an IDS in addition to an IPS?
	Why does full packet capture matter in an IDS system?
	What packages are included in the Secuirty Onion distro?
	How can Secuity Onion be used as a forensic analysis tool?
	Why should a company that's already invested in commercial IDS/IPS bother with Security Onion?
	What role does Security Onion play in host-based intrusion detection (HIDS)?
	How would you size server hardware &amp; storage for a successful Security Onion deployment?
	When will Security Onion be available in a 64-bit flavor?
	What's the profile of the typical shop that's deployed Security Onion?
	Can Security Onion monitor traffic on multiple interfaces simultaneously?
	What's the difference between a Security Onion "sensor" and "server"?
	How much data does a Security Onion sensor send back to a server, and what's the impact on WAN utilization?
	Will there be wireless functionality built into Security Onion in the future?
	Does Mandiant give Doug much time to work on Security Onion?
	Can Security Onion be deployed as a virtual machine?

Links

	Security Onion
	Doug Burks on Twitter
	TaoSecurity - Richard Bejtlich's blog on digital security
	Snort - open source network intrusion prevention and detection system
	OISF - home of Suricata. The Open Information Security Foundation (OISF) is a non-profit foundation organized to build a next generation IDS/IPS engine.
	OSSEC - open source host-based intrusion detection system
	Argus - a small, fast, and easily expandable network IDS designed with small to moderate sized networks in mind
	Bro - powerful network analysis framework that is much different from the typical IDS
	NetworkMiner - a Network Forensic Analysis Tool (NFAT) for Windows
	PF_RING - a new type of network socket that dramatically improves packet capture speed
	Kismet - an 802.11 layer2 wireless network detector, sniffer, and intrusion detection system
	TCP/IP Weapons School 3.0 - TWS3 as taught by Richard Bejtlich. Is your network safe from intruders? Do you know how to find out? Do you know what to do when you learn the truth?
	ELSA - enterprise log, search and archive. A centralized syslog framework built on Syslog-NG, MySQL, and Sphinx full-text search.

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		<description>Aerohive has recently announced Bonjour support for networking. If you aren’t familiar with Bonjour it’s the zero configuration protocol that used by Apple for all their devices to discover services on the network such as printers, AppleTVs, File Shares and more. Apple technologies such as Airplay (for music/media sharing), AirDrop (for file sharing) and Print [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/OSppf2KG85s" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Aerohive has recently announced Bonjour support for networking. If you aren’t familiar with Bonjour it’s the zero configuration protocol that used by Apple for all their devices to discover services on the network such as printers, AppleTVs,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Aerohive has recently announced Bonjour support for networking. If you aren’t familiar with Bonjour it’s the zero configuration protocol that used by Apple for all their devices to discover services on the network such as printers, AppleTVs, File Shares and more. Apple technologies such as Airplay (for music/media sharing), AirDrop (for file sharing) and Print Servers to get access to resources. And with companies adopting Apple products on a large scale it’s time for the network to have some control and management of services.

At the networking level, the Bonjour protocol was designed for local access only and uses mulitcast and broadcast protocols to announce available services. For example this is a snap of services on a simple networks:

Aerohive has placed Bonjour forwarding agents into their hardware that allows control over Bonjour and sponsored this podcast to talk about these features.
Side note from greg: Although I learned a lot about Bonjour/ZeroConf in this podcast it's important to realise that you can control Bonjour traffic on LANs in addition to wireless networks.

	What is Apple’s Bonjour protocol?
	How does it work?
	What are the problems with it?
	What has Aerohive introduced to solve these issues?
	Why did Aerohive build this feature?
	What types of companies are in need of this type of solution?
	Were you the first to address this problem?

Show Notes

	Show 75 - Mid November - Aerohive and Branch networking
	Bonjour Browser can be downloaded from here.
	Aerohive Blogs
	Areohive blog post with more technical detail : Breaking Subnet Boundaries with Bonjour: Simplifying Apple TV and AirPlay in the Enterprise

About Mathew Gast
Matthew Gast is the Director of Product Management at Aerohive Networks, where he leads development of the core software technologies in Aerohive’s fully distributed Wi-Fi network system. He currently serves as chair of both the Wi-Fi Alliance’s security task groups, and is the past chair of the IEEE 802.11–2012 revision.

Matthew is also the author of 802.11 Wireless Networks: The Definitive Guide (O’Reilly), which is now in its second edition and has been translated into six languages.

His second book on wireless networking, 802.11n: A Survival Guide (O’Reilly) is expected in March of this year.

[OReilly 802.11 book](http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596100520.do)

[Oreilly 802.11n book]( http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920021988.do)</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 93 – Lies and Routing in the Internet</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/n9BDiNbTE04/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-93-lies-routing-internet/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show is few moments to breathe, take stock, and meditate about peace in our time and listen to someone else do the talking. Today, Packet Pushers is re-broadcasting a recording of a presentation by Geoff Huston from the AusCERT2011. I have to say that I&amp;#8217;ve always known that Internet routing was a mess but Geoff [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/n9BDiNbTE04" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>internet,routing,security</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This show is few moments to breathe, take stock, and meditate about peace in our time and listen to someone else do the talking. Today, Packet Pushers is re-broadcasting a recording of a presentation by Geoff Huston from the AusCERT2011. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This show is few moments to breathe, take stock, and meditate about peace in our time and listen to someone else do the talking. Today, Packet Pushers is re-broadcasting a recording of a presentation by Geoff Huston from the AusCERT2011.

I have to say that I've always known that Internet routing was a mess but Geoff breaks it down in approachable and easy to understand way that drives home just how unreliable and insecure the Internet is. Chilling stuff and well worth listening to. Geoff Huston is a well known and respected figure in the development of the Internet.

Here is the description form the conference website:

Securing the Internet's Foundations - Addresses and Routing

The framework of trust that supports the operation of the internet starts with a basic assumption about the uniqueness of IP addresses and the integrity of routing. If this assumption fails then the internet is exposed to many forms of subversion and attack. This presentation will outline the role of addresses and routing and the potential attack vectors, and will also report on the progress to establish a secure framework for addresses and their use in the Internet, highlighting the progress in establishing a secure routing environment for the Internet.

APNIC's Geoff Huston on routing system "lies" 

This was recorded by Risky.biz - a podcast on information security which I listen to every week. The host, Patrick Grey is a freelance security journalist who really knows his stuff. I'd sure like to meet up and meet both him and Adam Buarlow(?) someday.

Risky Business is a great show which a good practical mix of security news and interviews with interesting people. A big shout out to Patrick Grey who kindly gave me permission to use his recording. And thanks to Geoff Huston who also gave his permission to rebroadcast this recording.
About Geoff Huston
Geoff Huston is the Chief Scientist at the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC), where he undertakes research on topics associated with Internet infrastructure, IP technologies, and address distribution policies. Prior to APNIC, Geoff was employed as the Chief Internet Scientist at Telstra and Technical Manager of the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNET). He was a leading figure in the development of Australia's academic and commercial Internet services.

Potaroo</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 92 – HP TippingPoint Secure Virtual Framework With Sanjay Raja – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/cQZ9sF_syN4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prime Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro chat with HP Security&amp;#8217;s Sanjay Raja in this sponsored podcast about the TippingPoint Secure Virtual Framework (SVF). Sanjay Raja is a Product Marketing Manager with the TippingPoint organization, and describes in detail how SVF integrates into your VMware environment. What We Discuss Inspecting traffic sourced from VMs, [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/cQZ9sF_syN4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>The prime Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro chat with HP Security's Sanjay Raja in this sponsored podcast about the TippingPoint Secure Virtual Framework (SVF). Sanjay Raja is a Product Marketing Manager with the TippingPoint organization,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The prime Pushers Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro chat with HP Security's Sanjay Raja in this sponsored podcast about the TippingPoint Secure Virtual Framework (SVF). Sanjay Raja is a Product Marketing Manager with the TippingPoint organization, and describes in detail how SVF integrates into your VMware environment.
What We Discuss

	Inspecting traffic sourced from VMs, when those VMs don't always live in the same physical place.
	Keeping the same security policy applied to a virtualized environment as would have been applied to a physical environment.
	Topology discovery and integration with Virtual Management Center.
	Firewalling VMs from other VMs.
	Shunting traffic to an external IPS device via low-latency tunneling.
	New vShield APIs that TippingPoint is creating with VMware via an exclusive partnership.
	The challenge of virtualizing IPS functionality without consuming all the resources of the cluster being protected.
	How to integrate SVF into an environment that's only partially virtualized.
	What "next generation IPS" really means, and how TippingPoint is a part of that space.
	Why you care about TippingPoint's DV Labs vulnerability discovery team.
	Does SVF allow inside hosts and DMZ (read: "Internet-facing") hosts to coexist on the same VMware cluster?
	What's the redundancy/resiliency architecture for SVF?
	How is TippingPoint SVF integrated with the other HP Security business units like Fortify and ArcSight?

Links

	Secure Virtual Framework
	HPEnterpriseSecurity.com
	Solid Reasons for Securing the Cloud (Sanjay Raja)
	How are you dealing with the new PCI standards covering virtualization and cloud security? (Sanjay Raja)</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>38:35</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 91 – Packet Party Feb 2012</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/9GBAu5openI/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-91-packet-party-feb-2012/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Packet Pushers had a Packet Party in Feb 17, 2012 with an Open Microphonr. The Packet Party was recorded live from event where we had about 90 people on the call. People from the audience would ask questions, and we throw to topic open for discussion. Overall the discussion was great, and we covered a [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/9GBAu5openI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Packet Pushers had a Packet Party in Feb 17, 2012 with an Open Microphonr.  - The Packet Party was recorded live from event where we had about 90 people on the call. People from the audience would ask questions,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Packet Pushers had a Packet Party in Feb 17, 2012 with an Open Microphonr. 



The Packet Party was recorded live from event where we had about 90 people on the call. People from the audience would ask questions, and we throw to topic open for discussion. Overall the discussion was great, and we covered a lot different topics. 

Please let us know if you enjoyed this format. Depending on the feedback, we will look to schedule more shows in the future.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>84:26</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 90 – Talking Career With Todd Lammle</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/ce1v0NAGlqc/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-90-talking-career-with-todd-lammle/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trainer, author, and long-time network industry veteran Todd Lammle joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro for a chat about the good ol&amp;#8217; days, the days ahead, and how to make it in the networking business. Todd&amp;#8217;s worked at some legendary companies like Atari and Xerox. He&amp;#8217;s been around the industry for a long time, and worked hard to [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ce1v0NAGlqc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>career,certification,e-books,e-learning,todd lammle</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Trainer, author, and long-time network industry veteran Todd Lammle joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro for a chat about the good ol' days, the days ahead, and how to make it in the networking business. Todd's worked at some legendary companies like Atari...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Trainer, author, and long-time network industry veteran Todd Lammle joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro for a chat about the good ol' days, the days ahead, and how to make it in the networking business. Todd's worked at some legendary companies like Atari and Xerox. He's been around the industry for a long time, and worked hard to make a go of it. Today, he's an independent trainer, consultant, and author. And did you know he's never played a video game?

We have a great chat with Todd, who opines about the state of the book publishing business, e-learning, staying focused, and how to have a successful career. We hit the following topics along the way.

	Todd, how did you get started in networking?
	How did you transition into training and writing?
	Luck vs. self-discipline – which is more important and why?
	Is blogging a waste of time? What about social media?
	Physical books vs. e-books &amp; e-learning. Does it matter?
	A lot of people think certifications are the answer to IT success. Are they?
	Why has it gotten so much harder to keep up with technology?
	What are the up-and-coming skills someone in networking should focus on to stay relevant?
	When it is time to move on to a different employer?
	What does cloud computing really mean for the networking industry?
	How does someone manage to earn a certification when they also have a full-time job and a family?
	What are some techniques to master the information required to pass a certification exam?

Links
Tips On Getting Things Done For The Person Already Stretched (Ethan's Personal Blog)

Todd Lammle on Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
Sponsors
NEC ProgrammableFlow</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>66:32</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 89 – OSPF vs IS-IS Smackdown – Where You Can Watch Their Eyes Reload</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/AEIl3EeIVRg/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this show we discuss the the differences between OSPF &amp;#38; IS-IS routing protocols and the differences between them. protocol optimisations are both good and bad. How both protocols have poor metric generation OSPFv3 offers some hope for the future. QoS Based metrics in their forms &amp;#8211; MPLS TE isn&amp;#8217;t getting good adoption. Why do [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/AEIl3EeIVRg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>design,network,networking,Protocols,routing,standards</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this show we discuss the the differences between OSPF &amp; IS-IS routing protocols and the differences between them.   protocol optimisations are both good and bad.   How both protocols have poor metric generation </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this show we discuss the the differences between OSPF &amp; IS-IS routing protocols and the differences between them.


	protocol optimisations are both good and bad.
	How both protocols have poor metric generation
	OSPFv3 offers some hope for the future.
	QoS Based metrics in their forms - MPLS TE isn't getting good adoption.
	Why do vendors put 10 cent CPUs in their equipment and make using SPF protocols so hard ?


*
Best Quotes:
Ivan - "There is the right thing to do, which is to choose IS-IS. Then there is the best thing to do which is to choose OSPF."

Marko: "Then you can watch their Eyes reload"

On the "Unique versus Useful"

A comparison between two routing protocols: OSPF and IS-IS - Radia Perlman - Behind the IEEE Paywall so don't bother following the link

Multi-topology routing in OSPFv3 (MT-OSPFv3)

 IS-IS and OSPF Difference Discussions - IETF DRAFT

OSPF and IS-IS : Choosing an IGP for Large-Scale Networks - Jeff Doyle

Guests 

Petr Lapukhov
Marko Milovejic @icemarkom and Blog - My Network Stories
Ivan Pepelnjak -@ioshints IPspace.net
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		<itunes:duration>89:56</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 88 – Server Internals and Network Performance</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/GBDfJ_9uIXM/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having met at VMworld 2010, Daniel Bowers and I were having an ongoing discussion around server architectures and how they impact network performance. I convinced him to come onto the show and talk broadly about what goes on inside a server. Mostly we focus on how server performance impacts network performance. I wouldn&amp;#8217;t call this a [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/GBDfJ_9uIXM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>architecture,data center,design,performance,servers</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Talking Server Design and How it Impacts Network Performance</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Having met at VMworld 2010, Daniel Bowers and I were having an ongoing discussion around server architectures and how they impact network performance. I convinced him to come onto the show and talk broadly about what goes on inside a server. Mostly we focus on how server performance impacts network performance. I wouldn't call this a deep dive, more of an overview into some of the ideas to keep in the top of your head.

This show was recorded on 4th October 2011. It's taken a while to find a slot where we can publish this show - we've got too much to talk about.

	PCI Express bus connections can support 10GbE.
	PCI Express is a point to point connection
	Memory performance affects network performance.
	You may get better performance with less memory modules according the type of memory bus in use.
	Physical slots in the chassis have different properties.
	Servers don't make good switches

Guests
Daniel Bowers is an server design engineer and marketeer who analyzes server architectures and performance for the IT research firm Ideas International.  He’s also a primary representative at SPEC and TPC.   Follow him on Twitter, or read his blogs on ideasint.blogs.com.
Show Links
Not All Servers Are Alike (With DNA)

 

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		<itunes:duration>26:49</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 87 – A SIP of Voice</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Packet Pushers voice crew reassembles, this time for a discussion of SIP trunks. Erik Peterson, Amy Arnold and Tom Hollingsworth are the technical talent this week, while Ethan Banks hosts and tries to keep up with the conversation without going, &amp;#8220;Huh?&amp;#8221; too many times. Hey, we can&amp;#8217;t all be voice engineers. SIP gets a pretty [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/pAed2rMpPYc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>The Packet Pushers voice crew reassembles, this time for a discussion of SIP trunks. Erik Peterson, Amy Arnold and Tom Hollingsworth are the technical talent this week, while Ethan Banks hosts and tries to keep up with the conversation without going,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The Packet Pushers voice crew reassembles, this time for a discussion of SIP trunks. Erik Peterson, Amy Arnold and Tom Hollingsworth are the technical talent this week, while Ethan Banks hosts and tries to keep up with the conversation without going, "Huh?" too many times. Hey, we can't all be voice engineers. ;-)

SIP gets a pretty good look from us as we take on the following talking points:

	What’s SIP stand for, and what's it used for?
	What are the common alternatives to SIP, and why is SIP preferred?
	What sorts of widely recognized hardware/software uses SIP?
	How does SIP work?
	Implementing SIP trunking in the enterprise for PSTN access.
	What should enterprises be considering when planning a transition to SIP?
	What is a Session Border Controller?
	What is SIP normalization, and when does it need to be used?
	SIP applications in production networks.
	SIP troubleshooting tools. (Packet captures, ladder diagrams, per call debugging, and common show &amp; debug commands.)
	How do I learn more about SIP? (Read Tom's review of the CiscoPress title "SIP Trunking".)

We hope you enjoy this show, and don't forget all of the different ways that you can follow the Packet Pushers to keep up with the content generated by our community.</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>57:29</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 86 – Connect to the IPv6 Internet for Free Using TunnelBroker.Net</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/WosgG9pw5r8/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurricane Electric&amp;#8217;s Owen DeLong joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss TunnelBroker.net. What&amp;#8217;s TunnelBroker.net? It&amp;#8217;s a free service from Hurricane Electric that lets you connect to the IPv6 Internet across an IPv4-only connection. Want to get started with IPv6? This is a great way to go, not only for the connectivity, but also for the [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/WosgG9pw5r8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Hurricane Electric's Owen DeLong joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss TunnelBroker.net. What's TunnelBroker.net? It's a free service from Hurricane Electric that lets you connect to the IPv6 Internet across an IPv4-only connection.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Hurricane Electric's Owen DeLong joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss TunnelBroker.net. What's TunnelBroker.net? It's a free service from Hurricane Electric that lets you connect to the IPv6 Internet across an IPv4-only connection. Want to get started with IPv6? This is a great way to go, not only for the connectivity, but also for the IPv6 education Hurricane Electric offers.

We keep the show pretty on-topic, and cover the following information.

	Who is Hurricane Electric?
	In simple terms, what's the TunnelBroker.net service?
	Are these "real" routable IPv6 address blocks HE is issuing?
	Why is HE offering this service (a) at all and (b) for free?
	Who is eligible to use TunnelBroker.net?
	Why bother? Isn't carrier grade NAT going to save us all?
	There are several types of IPv6 over IPv4 tunnels. What kind of tunnel is tunnelbroker.net using, and why was this type chosen over others?
	What sorts of devices can successfully bring up an IPv6 tunnel to HE?
	What sort of tunnel termination device is on the HE side? Is it redundant/resilient? In what way?
	Explain the tunnelbroker.net provisioning process. Is it automated or are there humans involved?
	Once the tunnel is up, what can you do with it?
	Can end users do anything crazy like advertise their own RIR-assigned IPv6 allocation to HE via BGP through the tunnel? Or nail up 2 tunnels to HE to have redundant virtual links for their IPv6 block?
	What happens if the user's IPv4 tunnel endpoint is dynamically assigned, and the address changes?
	How does a person advertise their IPv6-enabled service with DNS?
	What resources would you recommend for a person trying to get smart about IPv6?
	What's a good strategy for a business looking to do IPv6 multihoming?
	Is IPv6 prefix translation just a lame way for carriers to get out of upgrading their equipment?

LINKS

	Carrier Grade NAT
	6in4
	Quad-A DNS Records (RFC3596)
	IPv6 Prefix Translation (IETF Draft)
	www.theipv6experts.net - where Owen blogs...you know...once in a while.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 85 – Sponsored – The Span Port You Always Wanted – Gigamon</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/GUuQwymTo8M/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this Sponsored show we talk to Gigamon about &amp;#8221; making the SPAN port what it always wanted to be&amp;#8221;. In short, Gigamon makes switch devices that allow for powerful ways to capture traffic from your network, then slice, dice and forward it. If you have ever had problem with &amp;#8220;not enough SPAN ports&amp;#8221; for [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/GUuQwymTo8M" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Gigamon - The Network Span Port You Always Wanted.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this Sponsored show we talk to Gigamon about " making the SPAN port what it always wanted to be". In short, Gigamon makes switch devices that allow for powerful ways to capture traffic from your network, then slice, dice and forward it. If you have ever had problem with "not enough SPAN ports" for packet capture, then take a look at this product.
Show Agenda
Overview of Gigamon


	Mid-stage startup; founded in 2004; all product built-in-the-USA; founders from network monitoring industry
	Bridge the gap between faster-and-flatter networks, and the growing demand for diverse monitoring, management and security tools
	Establish an out-of-band, pervasive fabric, connecting to the network mirror &amp; SPAN ports, and intelligently delivering the right traffic to the right tool




Sounds good, but how do you do that ?

	A range of systems from 1RU to 1Tb chassis
	Let's focus on a deployment of just one system (although they are all locally and remotely 'stackable')
	Traffic on SPAN/Mirror/TAP ports is delivered into the Gigamon Fabric on what we call a "network port"
	At wirespeed, the traffic is 'manipulated' using GigaVUE software with hardware acceleration
	"Manipulation" means duplication, slicing, filtering, masking, etc
	How is the "Manipulation" configured : using "FlowMapping" logic

What is FlowMapping ?

	A L2/3/4 rules engine that overcomes the limitation of ingress and egress filtering
	Ingress : too much is dropped at the entry .. Good stuff could be lost
	Egress : too much could be dropped through oversubscription
	Flow Mapping sits in the heart of the system (and can span multiple systems)

 



How complex / what type of rules can be written ?

	Very complex, multi-step boolean type decisions
	Multiple egress (multi-tool as we call it) so that single ingress traffic can go to multiple tools

Are they fixed rules/definitions ?

	We support the L2/3/4 decision criteria
	Also allow for a set of User-Defined criteria to look for specific traffic characteristics

How do you extend beyond a single system ?

	We offer stacking – to connect multiple system together over n x 10Gb trunks
	We offer tunneling – to allow systems in remote offices to be part of the central "stack"

How do your customers use the systems ?

	Single-system deployments to smooth the migration from 1Gb to 10Gb
	To deliver longer and more predictable ROI for monitoring, management and security tools
	In Data Centers to centralize all monitoring/management system into one rack
	Service providers around the globe to support the growth of mobile devices

What does a normal deployment look like with your technology ?

	Ranges from a single system to multiple systems stacked together to form one Visibility Fabric
	Easy/flexible to configure – Network ports and tool port
	Maps are built to establish the "mapping rules" of traffic on network ports to tool ports
	Central management from a single GUI system (Citrus) if required

How does your solution get deployed in the Data Center ?

	End of row deployments
	Each end of row location has uplinks to top-of-rack swicthes
	GigaVUE devices are connected together using stacking
	All monitoring and management tools centrally located in one rack
	"Maps" are changed as needed to forward traffic from any server, any rack, any row to central tools

You can also watch a presentation from Gigamon from TechFieldDay at Vimeo - Gigamon where they presented at Network Field Day in Otcober 2011.

Thanks to Gigamon for sponsoring the Packet Pushers and sharing this content with the community.
Contact
You can follow them on twitter at http://twitter.com/gigamon or on the web at http://www.gigamon.com/</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 84 – Cisco WAAS – The Sleeping Giant Awakens – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/zEcGZ_lOPlA/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liad Ofek from the Cisco Borderless team joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the state of Cisco Wide Area Application Services (WAAS) in this sponsored show. WAAS is Cisco&amp;#8217;s WAN optimization platform, competing against products from Riverbed, SilverPeak, Exinda and others. If you&amp;#8217;re wrinkling your brow while remembering a bad WAAS experience back [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/zEcGZ_lOPlA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>Cisco Borderless,Cisco WAAS,Liad Ofek,wan optimization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Liad Ofek from the Cisco Borderless team joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the state of Cisco Wide Area Application Services (WAAS) in this sponsored show. WAAS is Cisco's WAN optimization platform, competing against products from Riverbed,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Liad Ofek from the Cisco Borderless team joins Ethan Banks and Greg Ferro to discuss the state of Cisco Wide Area Application Services (WAAS) in this sponsored show. WAAS is Cisco's WAN optimization platform, competing against products from Riverbed, SilverPeak, Exinda and others. If you're wrinkling your brow while remembering a bad WAAS experience back in 2007-2008, the software functionality and implementation process have changed for the better. Are you in the market for a WAN optimization solution? WAAS is worth another look.

In this show, we cover the following points:

	WAAS was a rough ride back in day. Are we right to have some bad memories?
	2010 was a breakout year for WAAS releases, while 2011 saw additional innovations.
	What are the deployment options for WAAS? (We discuss appliances, ISRG2 modules, Nexus 1000V and more.)
	We get into some detail about deployment scenarios. When does it make sense to deploy a WAVE appliance versus WAAS Express, for example?
	WAAS has some rich features and options that arrived in 2011, including new appliances, upgradeable network modules, context-aware DRE, and application optimization for Citrix XenDesktop.
	Network World seemed to like WAAS in their November 2011 independent testing.

Links

	Cisco WAAS Home Page
	Technical Discussion of WAAS Features
	Context Aware Data Redundancy Elimination White Paper
	Technical Discussion of vWAAS
	WAAS Express Data Sheet
	Network World WAAS Testing</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 83 – We Are an Independent Show</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/TuT694Gjzow/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week it&amp;#8217;s just Greg and Ethan talking over a few topics. What was intended to be a quick half hour chat for the new year about Packet Pushers turned into a more than an hour on a whole range of topics that interest us, especially on independence and community. Some technical, some industry stuff [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/TuT694Gjzow" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>analyst</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This week it's just Greg and Ethan talking over a few topics. What was intended to be a quick half hour chat for the new year about Packet Pushers turned into a more than an hour on a whole range of topics that interest us,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week it's just Greg and Ethan talking over a few topics. What was intended to be a quick half hour chat for the new year about Packet Pushers turned into a more than an hour on a whole range of topics that interest us, especially on independence and community. Some technical, some industry stuff and some about our own lives.
Intro

	What the show is.
	Who we are.
	Plans for 2012.

	Mix of sponsored and independent shows. (Hey vendors, get on our radar now, Q1 is already filled.)
	Still about one show a week.
	More new voices from the community.
	More from our popular regulars (Ivan, Mrs. Y, Tom, others)
	More bloggers.
	Call for assistance with moderated forum / e*mail list site. (Are we ready to make that plea?)
	Continued relationship with Tech Field Day.



Do it yourself fibre optic cabling.
 Introduction to Mechanical Splicing - http://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/termination/mechsplice.html Greg's recent blog post on laser power and cable lengths: Can Fibre Optic Ethernet Cables Be Longer Than the standard?Splice loss on a mech splice = 0.3db whereas fusion splice is &lt;0.1db loss.
Cisco website
Ethan: All I want is a documentation library that’s easy to navigate. Greg: Yeah, right. Greg, hating on Cisco's Web Siteearlier this year.
Firewall log management
CSM vs FW1 vs Splunk vs SolarWinds LEM
Will you get alerts if your Internet goes down?
Issue - if the Internet at your main site is offline, is there a path for your alerting system to let you know about the issue? Alternatives * Multi-site monitoring * POTS modems * Cradlepoint 3G/4G failover * SMS gateways (?) * Cloudsourced monitoring * Secondary DSL or other cheap Internet (tricky to make effective, often a dead primary Internet circuit can make a dead secondary circuit if serviced out of the same facility or via the same conduit)
The importance of testing failover designs

	Why?

	Even simple redundancy designs break due to human error.
	Complex redundancy designs can break something you did not consider or for reasons that don’t show up on a whiteboard.


	Types of failover to test
	Failover routing, i.e. multipath
	Hardware pairs (redundant sups, core switch/routers, load balancer pairs, firewall pairs, ToR/EoR switches, switch stacks)
	Load on failover/redundant hardware/software
	FHRPs
	Failback - does topology reconverge to preferred state once error is past?
	Examples
	Link failover from private WAN to IPSEC (dynamic routing, IPSEC setup, application performance, available bandwidth, VoIP)
	Application failover to opposite data center (GSLB/DNS, firewall state, load-balancer state, connection spike due to shift)
	Testing criteria

	Flapping links and other subtle failures (point- we tend to simulate complete failures, not partial failures, but in real life, failures are often partial)
	Reachability - key when failing w/o dynamic routing
	Timers - fast enough? Too fast?
	Alerting / logging - are you even aware that a failure event has occurred?



Independent Bloggers are more compelling than analysts and journalists
Why independent bloggers write more compelling content than career journalists when it comes to networking. * analyst firms have special access * analyst firms can’t criticise vendors * vendors are both sources of information for research, andvendors are customers who pay analysts for papers * This is a serious conflict of interest and it can be hard to tell who is leading who in the dance. * usually, analysts are not technically strong. Who wants to be an engineer in that sort of organisation ? * Analysts can be arrogant or over proud and this can lead to poor quality research. Independent bloggers tends to display their biases clearly, and openly. Since they are customers, they can afford to speak their mind since they have no stake in the PR/Marketing game. Compare this to analyst firms whose income or source material comes from vendors.
WiFI Mobility Symposium
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		<title>Show 82 – Security Failures, No IPv6, No Network Management – Another Good Year</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/ICqUZ-l7fxQ/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guests This week a bunch of new faces to talk about 2011 and it&amp;#8217;s many failing: Scott Morris &amp;#8211; well known industry figure and CCIE trainer. Chris Marget &amp;#8211; Fragmentation Needed who works for a large reseller. And some regulars return: Tony Bourke @tbourke [Data Center Overlords](http://datacenteroverlords.com/ Hosts and Regulars And the blow hards Mrs. [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ICqUZ-l7fxQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Guests This week a bunch of new faces to talk about 2011 and it's many failing:  Scott Morris - well known industry figure and CCIE trainer.   Chris Marget - Fragmentation Needed who works for a large reseller. And some regulars return: - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Guests
This week a bunch of new faces to talk about 2011 and it's many failing:

	Scott Morris - well known industry figure and CCIE trainer.
	Chris Marget - Fragmentation Needed who works for a large reseller. And some regulars return:

Tony Bourke @tbourke [Data Center Overlords](http://datacenteroverlords.com/
Hosts and Regulars
And the blow hards Mrs. Y - the Network Security Princess, Ethan "I'm looking forward to next year" Banks and Greg "IT Security got shown up as a bunch of retards in 2011" Ferro are all making noises as usual.
Topics
From Greg’s blog - is OpenFlow/SDN routing or switching?

From Chris’ blog - Pricing and Trading Networks: Down is Up, Left is Right

Is 2012 the year enterprises get serious about IPv6? (Don’t fear the colon.)

Professional certifications that matter in 2012.

2011 was the year everything we trusted in security broke (RSA, various CAs, health information breaches, financial information breaches, SSL cipher cracks). So what decisions should enterprises be making in 2012 to stay out of the headlines?
Show Notes
Show 72 - How We are Killing the Internet - where we talk about the Happy Eyeballs IPv6/IPv4 interoperability feature.

LinkedIn Group - Packet Pushers
Show Sponsors
This week’s show is sponsored Get Console, makers of the best iPad terminal app for network engineers. If you need a rock solid feature rich terminal app to run on your iPad, including serial console support, check out  www.getconsole.co.uk.

And also by, Infineta Systems, a leading innovator and provider of Hyper-scale WAN Optimization solutions. Infineta's WAN Optimization product, the Data Mobility Switch, allows enterprises to expand and fill large WAN links. Infineta helps you move more data, more quickly, using less bandwidth. Get more information at www.infineta.com.</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>74:02</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 80 – SFlow and IP Accounting</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/_TVWACDrYN8/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the EuroNOG conference I recorded a conversation about SFlow with Elisa Jasinska who is Senior Packet Herder at Limelight Networks. ( That&amp;#8217;s what is says on her business card). Joining me is Ivan Pepelnjak to cover the SFlow basisc and some f the more advanced ideas that you need to be thinking of when [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/_TVWACDrYN8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>During the EuroNOG conference I recorded a conversation about SFlow with Elisa Jasinska who is Senior Packet Herder at Limelight Networks. ( That's what is says on her business card). - Joining me is Ivan Pepelnjak to cover the SFlow basisc and some f...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>During the EuroNOG conference I recorded a conversation about SFlow with Elisa Jasinska who is Senior Packet Herder at Limelight Networks. ( That's what is says on her business card).

Joining me is Ivan Pepelnjak to cover the SFlow basisc and some f the more advanced ideas that you need to be thinking of when looking a IP Accounting.
Show Topics
We kept the agenda simple -

SFlow: Why, What, How
About Ela
Ela Jasinska is a Senior Network Architect at Limelight Networks. Her work is focused on introducing new technologies to Limelight’s global network footprint as well as designing tools to manage and maintain the platform. She built and now operates Limelight’s Phoenix based Internet exchange, Arizona IX.

Previously Elisa has been working as a Network Engineer at the Amsterdam Internet Exchange, on projects such as AMS-IX’s route server deployment and their sFlow accounting software, as well as day-to-day operations of the exchange point.
Show Links
PMAcct - Open Source OpenFlow accounting PMACCT

AMSIX Frame Size Distribution http://www.ams-ix.net/sflow-stats/</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>20:34</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 79 – Elfiq &amp; Link Load Balancing – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/G2eMF1YBIcM/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this sponsored podcast, we introduce Link Load Balancing &amp;#8211; something the Packet Pushers hadn&amp;#8217;t realised was available for Enterprise and handling multi gigabit links. We talk about what Link Balancing is, how it works, and even some of the gotchas and &amp;#8216;be careful&amp;#8217; points when deploying. Plus some delightfully nerdy discussion about what goes [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/G2eMF1YBIcM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>link balancing,load balancing</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In this sponsored podcast, we introduce Link Load Balancing - something the Packet Pushers hadn't realised was available for Enterprise and handling multi gigabit links. We talk about what Link Balancing is, how it works,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this sponsored podcast, we introduce Link Load Balancing - something the Packet Pushers hadn't realised was available for Enterprise and handling multi gigabit links. We talk about what Link Balancing is, how it works, and even some of the gotchas and 'be careful' points when deploying. Plus some delightfully nerdy discussion about what goes on inside the box.



Elfiq Link Balancer appliances bring the ability to deploy and manage multiple ISPs for redundancy/failover, bandwidth augmentation and management.  This approach is simple and more cost-effective than traditional methods including BGP and is fully automated.  As all organizations depend on Internet connectivity to conduct business, Elfiq Link Balancers are a natural addition to any network.
Links to More Information on Elfiq Link Load Balancers.

	Elfiq White Papers: www.elfiq.com/whitepapers (we have 15 - one for all major topics!)
	Introduction to Link Balancers: www.elfiq.com/what
	Webcasts: http://www.elfiq.com/webcasts
	Elfiq model selector: www.elfiq.com/modelselector

About Elfiq Networks
Elfiq Networks ® enables organizations to ensure business continuity and improve network performance through innovative link balancing technologies.  We have been delivering innovation and excellence since 2004, creating a unique value proposition which is used in businesses in over 120 countries all over the world.

The Packet Pushers thanks Elfiq Networks for supporting the show by sponsoring us.</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>37:22</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 78 – Especially Thankful Chinwagging</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/wAyCmHlQbYg/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-78-especially-thankful-chinwagging/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week we takes a nod at Thanksgiving and talk nerdy. talks about the latest security breaches. Unsurprisingly. Ivan talks about changing the name of his quite famous ioshints.info blog to ipSpace.net HP announces only one Software licensing for their Wired Ethernet switches across the product range. which naturally, leads into a rant about Cisco [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/wAyCmHlQbYg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco,hp,licensing</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This week we takes a nod at Thanksgiving and talk nerdy.  talks about the latest security breaches. Unsurprisingly.   Ivan talks about changing the name of his quite famous ioshints.info blog to ipSpace.net </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we takes a nod at Thanksgiving and talk nerdy.

	talks about the latest security breaches. Unsurprisingly.
	Ivan talks about changing the name of his quite famous ioshints.info blog to ipSpace.net
	HP announces only one Software licensing for their Wired Ethernet switches across the product range.
	which naturally, leads into a rant about Cisco licensing.
	Answer some twitter questions about Centralised Wireless Controllers making sense and even when VoIP is being used.
	Documentation - Sharepoint, Wikis. Diagrams.
	Reminder about Color Blindness Colour Blindness, Network Diagrams and Reliability

Show Sponsors
This week’s show is sponsored Get Console, makers of the best iPad terminal app for network engineers. If you need a rock solid feature rich terminal app to run on your iPad, including serial console support, check out  www.getconsole.co.uk.

And also by, Infineta Systems, a leading innovator and provider of Hyper-scale WAN Optimization solutions. Infineta's WAN Optimization product, the Data Mobility Switch, allows enterprises to expand and fill large WAN links. Infineta helps you move more data, more quickly, using less bandwidth. Get more information at www.infineta.com.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>73:41</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 77 – Cisco Nexus 1000V and VXLAN With Han Yang and Victor Moreno – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/45XrcLr-p6k/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks chat with Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Han Yang and Victor Moreno to discuss Cisco's implementation of the emerging VXLAN standard (currently a draft) in the Nexus 1000V virtual switch. VXLAN is being evaluated by architects who need to scale multi-tenant networks beyond the traditional 4K VLAN limitation. VXLAN can be integrated with existing infrastructures, as it leverages IPv4 to form tunnels and multicast groups to carry broadcast traffic.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/45XrcLr-p6k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco nexus,cisco nexus 1000v,dci,vcloud director,vmware,vxlan</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks chat with Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Han Yang and Victor Moreno to discuss Cisco's implementation of the emerging VXLAN standard (currently a draft) in the Nexus 1000V virtual switch.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks chat with Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Han Yang and Victor Moreno to discuss Cisco's implementation of the emerging VXLAN standard (currently a draft) in the Nexus 1000V virtual switch. VXLAN is being evaluated by architects who need to scale multi-tenant networks beyond the traditional 4K VLAN limitation. VXLAN can be integrated with existing infrastructures, as it leverages IPv4 to form tunnels and multicast groups to carry broadcast traffic.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>40:04</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 76 – Why OpenFlow Has Mind-Melting Potential</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenFlow. Brave new world, or niche solution to a specific problem? The tool we always wanted, or the need we didn&amp;#8217;t know we had? Replacement for the legacy data center, or special purpose player at the edge? Unicorn tears or useful technology? Greg Ferro, Ivan Pepelnjak, and Derick Winkworth join this show&amp;#8217;s host Ethan Banks in [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/rb5C9wD0Gkw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>big switch networks,nec programmableflow,net field day 2,nicira,onf,open networking foundation,openflow</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>OpenFlow. Brave new world, or niche solution to a specific problem? The tool we always wanted, or the need we didn't know we had? Replacement for the legacy data center, or special purpose player at the edge? Unicorn tears or useful technology?</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>OpenFlow. Brave new world, or niche solution to a specific problem? The tool we always wanted, or the need we didn't know we had? Replacement for the legacy data center, or special purpose player at the edge? Unicorn tears or useful technology? Greg Ferro, Ivan Pepelnjak, and Derick Winkworth join this show's host Ethan Banks in a wide-open, back-and-forth discussion that opines about these questions and many more. For example:

	Is OpenFlow really "open" if you have to have a license to bake it into your products? Do we care?
	Does the ONF's agenda limit the impact OpenFlow will have on enterprise networks?
	Why does Cisco want to stomp OpenFlow into the ground? Or do they?
	Why is it that some of the guys developing OpenFlow technology say that the revolution is not all about OpenFlow?
	How is Software Defined Networking different from OpenFlow?
	Why did the NEC ProgrammableFlow demo rock the world of the Net Field Day 2 delegates?
	What's Big Switch doing that gets folks running multi-tenant networks all excited?
	Isn't it time we stopped managing our networks one device at a time?
	Why does OpenFlow have mind-melting potential?

Links
Open Networking Foundation
 NEC ProgrammableFlow
 Big Switch Networks
 Nicira</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>62:47</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 75 – Introducing Aerohive Branch on Demand – Sponsored</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/kf8FoyT2sI4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing Aerohive , manufacturers of fine Enterprise Wi-Fi networking equipment who, believe it or not, may actually have found a use for the cloud at the same time as getting rid of wireless LAN controllers in their big boned Access Points. After a quick introduction to Aerohive, we talk about their Branch-on-Demand product line that [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/kf8FoyT2sI4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>aerohive, wireless, branch, demand,cloud, security,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Aerohive Announces their Branch Controller</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Introducing Aerohive , manufacturers of fine Enterprise Wi-Fi networking equipment who, believe it or not, may actually have found a use for the cloud at the same time as getting rid of wireless LAN controllers in their big boned Access Points.

After a quick introduction to Aerohive, we talk about their Branch-on-Demand product line that is being announced today. This is an interesting change from traditional branch networking because the Wireless Access Point becomes the edge router, integrates off-site (Cloud based) security functions and offer a yearly pricing plan starting at USD$99 and priced per user and providing alternatives for SSL VPN, branch office routers. Hive Manager provides visibility and control of remote sites  using cloud-hosted management system which means it scales according to your needs.

Moving ahead of the rising tide of network management and visibility, Aerohive has already built a management platform that is well ahead of other organisations. Visibility and monitoring is especially important to the success of wireless networks, but for wide area networking it's vital to the administrator to know what's happening 'out there'.

More Information

You can go to www.aerohive.com for more product information and blogs.aerohive.com and follow them on twitter at @Aerohive

More information on the Branch-On-Demand Products

Branch on Demand Landing Page – http://www.aerohive.com/vip

Extending your Enterprise With Branch on Demand - http://www.aerohive.com/solutions/solutions-use-case/extending-your-enterprise

HiveOS for WiFi and Routing - http://www.aerohive.com/products/access-points/www.aerohive.com/products/software-management/hiveos

Cloud VPN Gateway Product Page - http://www.aerohive.com/products/software-management/cloud-vpn-gateway

BR100 Product Page - http://www.aerohive.com/products/hive-routers/br100

Cloud Platform - http://www.aerohive.com/solutions/technology-behind-solution/cloud-platform

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		<title>Show 74 – Juniper Certification Track Update</title>
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		<description>Liz Burns, Kieran Milne, and Kurt Bales join Ethan Banks for an update on where the Juniper certification tracks stand. Liz &amp;#38; Kieran talk about each of the tracks in turn, discuss the current and upcoming boot camp offerings, and Kurt describes his training and test-taking experience gained during the beta period. A short show, a [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/2ydtvlm7-Gk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Liz Burns, Kieran Milne, and Kurt Bales join Ethan Banks for an update on where the Juniper certification tracks stand. Liz &amp; Kieran talk about each of the tracks in turn, discuss the current and upcoming boot camp offerings,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Liz Burns, Kieran Milne, and Kurt Bales join Ethan Banks for an update on where the Juniper certification tracks stand. Liz &amp; Kieran talk about each of the tracks in turn, discuss the current and upcoming boot camp offerings, and Kurt describes his training and test-taking experience gained during the beta period.

A short show, a good listen, and interesting content for anyone considering a certification in the Juniper realm.
Links

	Packet Pushers podcast from October 2010 - "Big Things Ahead For Juniper Certifications"
	Juniper Networks Certification Program
	Service Provider Routing &amp; Switching Track
	Enterprise Routing &amp; Switching Track
	Junos Security Track
	Junosphere Lab
	Follow @junipercertify on Twitter.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 73 – Cisco ASA 1000V Cloud Firewall – Sponsored</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cisco is extending their Nexus 1000V in new directions. Not only is the Nexus 1000V a virtual switch, it acts as a platform for extending ASA firewall and security technology into your virtual environment. In this sponsored podcast, we get Rajneesh Chopra, Product Manager for the Nexus 1000V product line, to talk about how Virtual [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/Dbax6j0x9Gw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Cisco is extending their Nexus 1000V in new directions. Not only is the Nexus 1000V a virtual switch, it acts as a platform for extending ASA firewall and security technology into your virtual environment. In this sponsored podcast,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Cisco is extending their Nexus 1000V in new directions. Not only is the Nexus 1000V a virtual switch, it acts as a platform for extending ASA firewall and security technology into your virtual environment. In this sponsored podcast, we get Rajneesh Chopra, Product Manager for the Nexus 1000V product line, to talk about how Virtual ASA maps into the product and fits into Cisco's product strategy.
Topics Covered

	Data path from source to destination
	How the firewall is both in-line and indirect for application scanning.
	Suppoer for existing procedures and firewall policies
	Performance and capacity planning for the Virtual ASA firewall
	comparing with vShield Edge/App as distinct firewall solutions.
	comparing with Juniper VGW and HP Tipping Point SVF.
	Answering the question - Wouldn’t everyone need both VSG and virtual ASA? Is there a customer for one that would never need the other?

Show Notes
Previously we covered the Nexus 1000v in Show 49 – Cisco Nexus 1000v on 21 June 2011 where we covered the internal working and product overview.

You can find more information on the Cisco ASA 1000v Cloud Firewall on these links:

ASA 1000V product page

Nexus 1000V product page

Cisco Virtual Network Management Center

And big thanks to Cisco Server and Virtualization Business Unit for sponsoring the Packet Pushers. It helps us to keep pushing out more content. !!!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 72 – How We Are Killing the Internet</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg was invited to be a speaker at the EuroNOG conference in Warsaw Poland. While there, Greg spoke to Jan Zorz who is a major contributor to IPv6 in RIPE and IETF and involved with many large service providers for their IPv6 designs and deployment. He says about himself “A Guy from Slovenia, the IPv6 [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/sGfkAJTCEnA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>IPv6, happy, eyeballs, a+P, address, port, IPv6, rfc6346, ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs, Address plus Port,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Greg was invited to be a speaker at the EuroNOG conference in Warsaw Poland. While there, Greg spoke to Jan Zorz who is a major contributor to IPv6 in RIPE and IETF and involved with many large service providers for their IPv6 designs and deployment.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Greg was invited to be a speaker at the EuroNOG conference in Warsaw Poland. While there, Greg spoke to Jan Zorz who is a major contributor to IPv6 in RIPE and IETF and involved with many large service providers for their IPv6 designs and deployment. He says about himself “A Guy from Slovenia, the IPv6 evangelist. And a lot of opinions. ”. Ivan Pepelnjak was also on hand to make sure we had everything technically correct

This is general discussion to highlight the problem with IPv6, NAT and stateful protocols such as MPLS are slowly killing the Internet. And we talk about a wide range of other stuff - well, what else is new.

This is first podcast Greg recorded using a portable recorder so the audio quality is bit patchy. It’s still good to listen to, but not up to our usual standards
Show Links
Happy Eyeballls

RFC6346 - The Address plus Port (A+P) Approach to the IPv4 Address Shortage</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 71 – OpenFlow, SDN, Controllers, VXLAN &amp; Wishing for Fishes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wide ranging discussion this week following the Applied OpenFlow Symposium on Wednesday and the Network TechFieldDay on Thursday/Friday where we talked about the week and the much argued about purpose of VXLAN. Probably much more relevant to network engineers, I talk to Ivan Pepelnjak and discuss his conversion to believing in OpenFlow/SDN after he [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/gPrrERuocUg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>A wide ranging discussion this week following the Applied OpenFlow Symposium on Wednesday and the Network TechFieldDay on Thursday/Friday where we talked about the week and the much argued about purpose of VXLAN. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>A wide ranging discussion this week following the Applied OpenFlow Symposium on Wednesday and the Network TechFieldDay on Thursday/Friday where we talked about the week and the much argued about purpose of VXLAN.

Probably much more relevant to network engineers, I talk to Ivan Pepelnjak and discuss his conversion to believing in OpenFlow/SDN after he co-hosted the event with me. Big thanks to Marko Milivojevic for being willing to ask questions that the listeners would ask ( It takes a lot of courage to ask questions like he did)

Much fun, and herd discussion occurred.

The Difference Between Network and Server Engineers – Pictorial
Link to Vimeo videos for the Vendor Presentations.
We talked about what the vendors are doing in the OpenFlow/SDN space and here are the just the vendor presentations videos from the OpenFlow Symposium. You can watch them yourself
Ed Crabbe of Google
http://vimeo.com/31176510
Igor Gashinsky of Yahoo
http://vimeo.com/31175672
David Ward of Juniper
http://vimeo.com/31205041
David Meyer of Cisco
http://vimeo.com/31187703
Kyle Forster of Big Switch Network
http://vimeo.com/31184739
Don Clark of NEC
http://vimeo.com/31204705
Curt Beckmann of Brocade
http://vimeo.com/31185469
Table   



Vimeo




Ed Crabbe of Google at OpenFlow Symposium
http://vimeo.com/31176510


Igor Gashinsky of Yahoo
http://vimeo.com/31176510


David Ward of Juniper at OpenFlow Symposium
http://vimeo.com/31205041


Don Clark of NEC at OpenFlow Symposium
http://vimeo.com/31204705


David Meyer of Cisco at OpenFlow Symposium
http://vimeo.com/31187703


Curt Beckmann of Brocade
http://vimeo.com/31185469


Kyle Forster of Big Switch Networks at OpenFlow Symposium
http://vimeo.com/31184739



Guests
Rob Markovic @vrobm

Marko Milivojevic @icemarkom | blog.ipexpert.com

Ivan Pepelnjak @ioshints | http://blog.ioshints.info</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 70 – Preview of Tech Field Day and OpenFlow Symposium</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Fry, Tony Bourke, and Tom Hollingsworth chat with Ethan and Greg about the upcoming Tech Field Day and closely tied OpenFlow Symposium events to be held in San Jose, California this week. On Wednesday, October 26, 2011, several compelling vendors &amp;#38; potential customers (such as Google and Yahoo) will present their unique take on [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/6DEZ34abZ8Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Jeff Fry, Tony Bourke, and Tom Hollingsworth chat with Ethan and Greg about the upcoming Tech Field Day and closely tied OpenFlow Symposium events to be held in San Jose, California this week. - On Wednesday, October 26, 2011,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Jeff Fry, Tony Bourke, and Tom Hollingsworth chat with Ethan and Greg about the upcoming Tech Field Day and closely tied OpenFlow Symposium events to be held in San Jose, California this week.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2011, several compelling vendors &amp; potential customers (such as Google and Yahoo) will present their unique take on OpenFlow at the OpenFlow Symposium, the kick-off gathering for this Tech Field Day event. The Packet Pushers Podcast and Tech Field Day are pleased to be able to share this discussion with the networking community via live streaming and audio that will be captured during the event. If you're trying to get a technical handle on the OpenFlow hype, or if you have a specific networking challenge you think OpenFlow can help solve, then be sure to join in the discussion. Ethan and Greg will be compiling crowdsourced questions to pass along to the vendors during this event via Twitter and Google Plus, so please follow us or share with us as you like. Don't forget that Ivan Pepelnjak will also be on the panel to ask several questions of his own. Watch Twitter for the #OFS11 hashtag.

A great mix of networking vendors will present to the Tech Field Day delegation on Thursday and Friday, October 27 and 28. The list of vendors and bloggers (many of which have been on the podcast) that will be attending can be found here. As with the OpenFlow Symposium, crowdsourcing questions is definitely on our minds. As the vendors present to the delegation, you'll be able to watch via live streaming (watch Twitter for the #NFD2 hashtag or visit techfieldday.com for live stream info), so tweet away with your questions, aiming them at any or all of us in the room. We'll do our best to relay those questions to the vendors, time and discussion permitting.

It's a busy week for us, and we hope you find the networking content we'll be able to share beneficial.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 69 – HP Talks Tech at Interop NYC on OpenFlow, Optical Backplanes, IRF, and IPv6</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Interop NYC held the first week of October 2011, HP invited several network engineers engaged in social media to attend at HP&amp;#8217;s expense. Ethan Banks was one of those in attendance, and he captured several hours worth of audio from the event. This podcast is not the typical &amp;#8220;let&amp;#8217;s gather around the virtual conference [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/Q42ZubakbEE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>hp irf,hp networking,intelligent resilient framework,interop,interop nyc 2011,openflow,optical backplane,saar gillai</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>At Interop NYC held the first week of October 2011, HP invited several network engineers engaged in social media to attend at HP's expense. Ethan Banks was one of those in attendance, and he captured several hours worth of audio from the event.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>At Interop NYC held the first week of October 2011, HP invited several network engineers engaged in social media to attend at HP's expense. Ethan Banks was one of those in attendance, and he captured several hours worth of audio from the event. This podcast is not the typical "let's gather around the virtual conference table and chat" format, but is instead a compilation of the most interesting technical audio from the event, focused on discussions HP held with the bloggers.
Topics Discussed

	Saar Gillai, leader of HP Networking's Advanced Technology Group, talks about HP's position on OpenFlow. It's not the same over-hyped story you've maybe heard before. Saar's view is a little different, and - dare I say - more balanced than what you hear from some pundits.
	Saar continues by discussing the issues driving the need for optical backplanes. In short, we can't aggregate very many 100Gbps links into a chassis using copper-based backplane technology before exceeding what science will allow. The change to optical backplanes is therefore inevitable.
	HP kicks off a discussion with the bloggers about IRF, HP's Intelligent Resilient Framework. IRF allows you to bond as many as 4 switches into a single logical super-chassis. I know some of you just shuddered. The bloggers ask some hard questions about IRF (the ones that made you shudder), and HP comes back with their answers.
	The final discussion is a technical explanation of how HP handles memory space such that their switches' IPv6 forwarding performance is on par with their IPv4 performance. Not all vendors can say this (often IPv6 performance lags behind IPv4), and HP explains what's different in their systems that allows IPv4 and IPv6 performance parity.

Links
Saar Gillai's Profile

Greg Ferro's Live Shots Of A Prototype HP Optical Backplane

HP Overview Whitepaper on IRF

HP A5820X &amp; A5800 Switch Series IRF Configuration Guide

Ivan Pepelnjak's Take On IRF</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 68 – Practical Introduction and Application of OpenFlow Networking</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Practical Introduction to Applied OpenFlow We&amp;#8217;ve heard a lot of talk about OpenFlow recently and it&amp;#8217;s potential impact for networking but not a lot about how it works. This screencast is Practical Introduction to OpenFlow with a focus on how we would actually make it work in real networks. Instead of muttering into beards about [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/-Uvji08W370" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Practical Introduction to Applied OpenFlow We've heard a lot of talk about OpenFlow recently and it's potential impact for networking but not a lot about how it works. This screencast is Practical Introduction to OpenFlow with a focus on how we would ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Practical Introduction to Applied OpenFlow
We've heard a lot of talk about OpenFlow recently and it's potential impact for networking but not a lot about how it works. This screencast is Practical Introduction to OpenFlow with a focus on how we would actually make it work in real networks. Instead of muttering into beards about  XML formats and debating the relative merits of protocol mechanics, this is a "bottom up" look at how OpenFLow is designed and it's practical application in networks and what the transition from today to tomorrow will look like.
I'm joined by Martin Casado from Nicira Networks, who is also one of the creators of OpenFlow to help me with some of the heavy content and applications for OpenFlow. Thanks to Martin for reviewing the presentation and offering more information and then joining me to discuss various aspects.
Don't forget the Applied OpenFlow Symposium happening in San Jose on Tuesday, 26th October. We will be streaming the event live on the Tech Field Day website.
We will having panel discussions with the NEC, Juniper, Brocade, Big switch and Cisco on their Business AND Technical approach to OpenFlow and their future plans. And representatives from Google and Yahoo will be on hand to talk about their experiences and practical uses.
There have been several blog posts at Packet Pushers -click for a list is the last few weeks that are definitely worth reading. And a podcast on 7 April 2011 where we first 'discovered' OpenFlow - Show 40 – Openflow – Upending the Network Industry
Greg has also posted a few previous articles:
OpenFlow - Why it can cross the Adoption Gap OpenFlow and Network Value – Network Computing
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		<title>Show 67 – CCIE Security Track Update With Natalie Timms, Program Manager</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie Timms, CCIE Security Program/Product Manager for Cisco, is kind enough to spend a little time chatting with Packet Pushers podcast host Ethan Banks about the current state of the Cisco CCIE Security track. Ethan and Natalie build a conversation around the following items: Talk about what Cisco is doing to help preserve the integrity of [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/JEXft1okXUU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Natalie Timms, CCIE Security Program/Product Manager for Cisco, is kind enough to spend a little time chatting with Packet Pushers podcast host Ethan Banks about the current state of the Cisco CCIE Security track.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Natalie Timms, CCIE Security Program/Product Manager for Cisco, is kind enough to spend a little time chatting with Packet Pushers podcast host Ethan Banks about the current state of the Cisco CCIE Security track. Ethan and Natalie build a conversation around the following items:

	Talk about what Cisco is doing to help preserve the integrity of the CCIE exams.
	Please describe at a high-level the sorts of technologies covered in the CCIE Security track.
	The Routing &amp; Switching track is the most popular; some CCIEs consider the Security track for their second challenge. How much technology overlap is there between R&amp;S and Security?
	The Security track has been at version 3.0 since about April 2009. How far away is a 4.0 track, and how much notice will we have?
	The Cisco ASA has seen significant changes with the 8.3 and 8.4 releases. How far are we from seeing these new ASA versions implemented in the exams?
	There’s been a lot of back-and-forth between Cisco and lab exam candidates about open ended questions and the troubleshooting section. Can you update us on where those issues stand?
	Is Cisco working with CiscoPress to bring an updated CCIE Security Exam Certification Guide to market? If so, is there a targeted publication date?
	What test taking tips do you recommend?

Links
Learning at Cisco - CCIE Security Program

CCIE Security Blueprint (written) - Login Required

CCIE Security Blueprint (lab) - Login Required</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 66 – VXLAN and NVGRE With Ken Duda</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to know more about VXLAN and NVGRE so who better than Ken Duda from (http://aristanetworks.com) from Arista Networks, the only author listed on both IETF RFCS and [Ivan Pepelnjak](http://blog.ioshints.info) on a call to go fast and loose on the topics. [IETF VXLAN](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mahalingam-dutt-dcops-vxlan/) [IETF NVGRE](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sridharan-virtualization-nvgre/) What is VXLAN and why does networking need it [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/moN50CP55ok" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>packet, pushers, vxlan, nvgre, VMware</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>I wanted to know more about VXLAN and NVGRE so who better than Ken Duda from (http://aristanetworks.com) from Arista Networks, the only author listed on both IETF RFCS and [Ivan Pepelnjak](http://blog.ioshints.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I wanted to know more about VXLAN and NVGRE so who better than Ken Duda from (http://aristanetworks.com) from Arista Networks, the only author listed on both IETF RFCS and [Ivan Pepelnjak](http://blog.ioshints.info) on a call to go fast and loose on the topics.

[IETF VXLAN](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mahalingam-dutt-dcops-vxlan/) [IETF NVGRE](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sridharan-virtualization-nvgre/)

What is VXLAN and why does networking need it ? How does it works, and what are it's future impacts on networking ?

Comparing NVGRE and VXLAN and why there are two standards ? Why aren't we using MPLS or LISP ? Cover some of the limitations ? What about lack of transparency with VXLAN packets ? What about L2 security challenges inside VXLAN networks ?

In particular, the key lesson I learned is that the control plane is open. The current implementation doesn't specify the end point discovery and OpenFlow is a consideration here. And that VXLAN silicon is planned for the future for networking intervention in flows.
Hosts
Name: Ivan Pepelnjak Web: http://blog.ioshints.info Twitter: @ioshints

and last, and the very least:

Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind
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		<title>Show 65 – Second Shot of Strong Opinion</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show in all about Beast Attack on SSL, Cisco Nexus network designs and limitations of the FEX switching, and a bitch slap between MrsY and Greg on DNS Load Balancers. This is the second half of the show recorded on the 25th Sep, 2011. You can find the first show. Beast Attack on SSL. [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ufNI7qEJ0UE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>dns, load, balancing, Cisco, Nexus,design, beast, ssl, f5, gtm,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This show in all about Beast Attack on SSL, Cisco Nexus network designs and limitations of the FEX switching, and a bitch slap between MrsY and Greg on DNS Load Balancers. - This is the second half of the show recorded on the 25th Sep, 2011.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This show in all about Beast Attack on SSL, Cisco Nexus network designs and limitations of the FEX switching, and a bitch slap between MrsY and Greg on DNS Load Balancers.

This is the second half of the show recorded on the 25th Sep, 2011. You can find the first show.
Beast Attack on SSL.
MrsY says:
Felt so depressed after reading about the new SSL vuln, that I didn’t even want to go to work the next day. I can’t figure out what we’re doing anymore. Why aren’t we deploying TLS 1.1 and 1.2?! Everyone knew this was coming. “...Short for Browser Exploit Against SSL/TLS, BEAST performs what's known as a chosen plaintext-recovery attack against AES encryption in earlier versions of SSL and its successor TLS, or transport layer security. The technique exploits an encryption mode known as cipher block chaining, in which data from a previously encrypted block of data is used to encode the next block.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/19/beast_exploits_paypal_ssl/

Pretty good post on mitigating the threat and what it means

Saw some figures from Ivan Ristic’s site regarding the prevalence of older (vulnerable) versions of SSL and TLS: http://blog.ivanristic.com/2011/09/ssl-survey-protocol-support.html

And from the God of Crypto (i.e. Blowfish), Bruce Schneier:
“The tool is based on a blockwise-adaptive chosen-plaintext attack, a man-in-the-middle approach that injects segments of plain text sent by the target's browser into the encrypted request stream to determine the shared key. The code can be injected into the user's browser through JavaScript associated with a malicious advertisement distributed through a Web ad service or an IFRAME in a linkjacked site, ad, or other scripted elements on a webpage. Using the known text blocks, BEAST can then use information collected to decrypt the target's AES-encrypted requests, including encrypted cookies, and then hijack the no-longer secure connection. That decryption happens slowly, however; BEAST currently needs sessions of at least a half-hour to break cookies using keys over 1,000 characters long.

The attack, according to Duong, is capable of intercepting sessions with PayPal and other services that still use TLS 1.0­which would be most secure sites, since follow-on versions of TLS aren't yet supported in most browsers or Web server implementations.”

Adaptive chosen-plaintext attack, where the cryptanalyst makes a series of interactive queries, choosing subsequent plaintexts based on the information from the previous encryptions. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/09/man-in-the-midd_4.html
“The chosen plaintext-recovery at the heart of BEAST attacks algorithms that use a mode known as CBC, or cipher block chaining, in which information from a previously encrypted block of data is used (as an IV) to encode the next block. CBC is present in both AES and DES, but not in RC4.” http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/23/google_ssl_not_vulnerable_to_beast/

And finally, best analysis of how BEAST works by the Tor developers. https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-and-beast-ssl-attack
Cisco Nexus Switch Designs
Ethan says
I met with Cisco this week to design a small Nexus core/agg/access. We could talk through why they guided me the way they did. AKA, why is the 7K lagging behind the 5K in features? Shouldn’t the 5K be the leader? Or is it all about the non-blocking? How come FEXen can’t dual-home to a pair of 7Ks? And does it matter? Etc.
Using DNS Load Balancers or BIND to manage DNS domains
MrsY and Greg go head to head on whether BIND is better than using DNS Load Balancer appliances for managing DNS domains. Talked about F5 GTM, NetScaler Global DNS, Cisco GSLB or using a managed DNS service.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 64 – Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T Deep Dive With Cisco TME’s Patrick Warichet + Scott Hodgdon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this sponsored show, Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Patrick Warichet and Scott Hodgdon join Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks to chat about the recently announced Cisco Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T in a deep dive discussion. We mine the depths of the new sup&amp;#8217;s architecture and get the feeling that, &amp;#8220;there&amp;#8217;s life in the old dog yet!&amp;#8221; The [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/gagceMWXVrk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>In this sponsored show, Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Patrick Warichet and Scott Hodgdon join Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks to chat about the recently announced Cisco Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T in a deep dive discussion.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this sponsored show, Cisco Technical Marketing Engineers Patrick Warichet and Scott Hodgdon join Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks to chat about the recently announced Cisco Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T in a deep dive discussion. We mine the depths of the new sup's architecture and get the feeling that, "there's life in the old dog yet!"
The Discussion

	Sup2T engine architecture &amp; fabric forwarding capability.
	Compatibility: what legacy line cards &amp; DFCs, service modules, and chassis' are supported by the 2T?
	80Gbps per slot using new (and future) 6900 series line cards.
	TrustSec: hop-by-hop layer 2 encryption in hardware (MACsec) &amp; security group tagging compatible with the Nexus scheme.
	Data center virtualization features: MPLS, VPLS, fat pseudowires, and more.
	Is FabricPath/TRILL coming to the 6500? Sounds like it.
	Sup2T initial code release has feature parity with IOS SX 12.2(33)SXI3 on the Sup720.
	Sup2T VSS capability is single sup per chassis today, but quad sup SSO is coming.
	What's the development path of the Sup720 in conjunction with the Sup2T going forward? Will the Sup720 be abandoned?
	When will we see IOS 15.0 on the 6500?
	What's the licensing structure going to be for the 6500/Sup2T?
	Will service modules continue to be a big driver in a Sup2T-powered 6500?
	How do you squeeze as much performance as possible from a 6500?
	What's the IPv6 performance &amp; feature set like on the Sup2T?
	Scott talks about his favorite Sup2T feature: flexible netflow.

Links

	Cisco Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T Data Sheet
	Cisco TrustSec
	Cat6500 – Sup 2T – Dead Parrot or a Million Volts? (Greg)
	Cisco Catalyst 6500 Supervisor 2T Technical Highlights – Will Sup2T Stop You From Buying Nexus? (Ethan)</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 63 – The First Shot of Strong Opinion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First up, we talked about the how Packet Pushers is moving into some sponsored shows and contents. We are a community driven group so your feedback is important and valuable. The good news is that sponsorship will help to continue making content and doing cool things. The bad is that some advertising will appear. We [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/EzB6HRBrMdA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>data centre,hp,hyper-v,learning,openflow,study,temperature,workbench</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>First up, we talked about the how Packet Pushers is moving into some sponsored shows and contents. We are a community driven group so your feedback is important and valuable. The good news is that sponsorship will help to continue making content and do...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>First up, we talked about the how Packet Pushers is moving into some sponsored shows and contents. We are a community driven group so your feedback is important and valuable. The good news is that sponsorship will help to continue making content and doing cool things. The bad is that some advertising will appear. We hope to make a reasonable balance, keep it nerdy, a little bit fun and full of tough, good questions.

Everyone has said a bit about the HP CEO getting the boot, and then putting some other person in charge. So we pretend to know something about what motivates managers for a while, then give up in frustration. As usual.

Blogging at Packet Pushers - everyone is welcome to blog at Packet Pushers and contribute to community. Importantly, you precious writing will actually be read. Contact us packetpushers@gmail.com

We invited you to join us at the Applied OpenFlow Symposium, we will streaming the event live, and if you live near San Jose, you can come and join us - get your free ticket at Eventbrite to help us with numbers.

James wrote to us and asked
“Is there any mileage in a show discussing how different people go about building new skills, in particular when faced with a new subject, a new product or a new technology. Where do you start, what tools do you use to keep tech notes, bookmarks, documentation etc. How do you reinforce learning, build a lab and keep yourself from forgetting it all in three months.”
And everyone had something to say. Not sure if it was helpful but we tried :). Our two cents worth.



We had a short discussion about HP and their CEO troubles. The question is Do we care? But it's fun to prognosticate.

We mentioned running computers in sheds and had good potential conversation.

Cisco Announces Hyper-V and Nexus 1000. Omar Sultan has the details and links into the real information.

And mentioned @beaker post on Flying Cars and Why The Hypervisor is a Lawnmower in Comparison

The rest of the show will be up in the next couple of weeks.</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>46:18</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 62 – Technical Deep-Dive – Infineta Data Mobility Switch (DMS) Hyper-Scale WAN Optimization</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/aE_36tKElG4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to do a technical deep-dive of Infineta&amp;#8217;s Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry&amp;#8217;s first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN pipes as large as 10Gbps. Targeting customers who need to accelerate replication, backup traffic, Hadoop, and similar data sets between data centers, Infineta [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/aE_36tKElG4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>data mobility switch,haseeb budhani,infineta,wan optimization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to do a technical deep-dive of Infineta's Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry's first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN p...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to do a technical deep-dive of Infineta's Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry's first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN pipes as large as 10Gbps. Targeting customers who need to accelerate replication, backup traffic, Hadoop, and similar data sets between data centers, Infineta is offering a solution that (as far as the Packet Pushers know) no one else is offering at this time. What used to take an array of WAN accelerators can now be handled by a single piece of hardware at each DC.

	Infineta is focused solely on Hyper-scale WANs - data center to data center traffic.
	Infineta starts where other WAN optimization vendors leave off. The smallest Infineta box accelerates multiple Gigabits per second.
	Merchant silicon is used (as opposed to x86 architecture) to allow deduplication of data streams at speeds up to 10Gbps.

In this deep-dive, we discuss the following with Haseeb:


	In-path versus out-of-path deployments.
	Implications for data center routing architectures.
	Hardware redundancy.
	TCP stream manipulation.
	The effect of interdatacenter path changes on in-flight accelerated traffic.
	Why disk caching doesn't work at 10Gbps, and what the DMS does instead.
	Integrating a DMS-accelerated data stream with security devices.
	Working with the DMS interface.


Links
Data Mobility Switch (DMS) Overview
@haseebbudhani</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 61 – Securing an Internet-Facing App – Part 2 – Border Routers, Firewalls, IDS/IPS</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/B-DkPdqJR4o/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In show 61, host Ethan Banks is joined again by Mrs. Y, Daniel Powell, Bob Plankers, and Tom Hollingsworth in the second part of a virtual workbench discussion begun in show 56. We recorded this heart-warming, family-friendly episode about securing an Internet-facing application on September 9, 2011. The Packet Pushers eagerly anticipate award nominations for [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/B-DkPdqJR4o" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>arin,bgp,border routers,DMZ,firewalls,intrusion prevention,network security,next-gen firewalls,packet pushers podcast,RBL,router hardening,tcp reset</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In show 61, host Ethan Banks is joined again by Mrs. Y, Daniel Powell, Bob Plankers, and Tom Hollingsworth in the second part of a virtual workbench discussion begun in show 56. We recorded this heart-warming,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In show 61, host Ethan Banks is joined again by Mrs. Y, Daniel Powell, Bob Plankers, and Tom Hollingsworth in the second part of a virtual workbench discussion begun in show 56. We recorded this heart-warming, family-friendly episode about securing an Internet-facing application on September 9, 2011. The Packet Pushers eagerly anticipate award nominations for this gripping script expressing the love a network engineer has for his border routers, firewalls, and intrusion prevention devices. Filled with passion, packets, and paradigm shifts, this is the one show that will change the way you see everything. Okay, not really. But we think you'll like it. We hope. After all, "it depends."
News

	Carol Bartz gets irreverently booted from Yahoo. And she's not happy.
	DNS gets hijacked? OR DID IT?!? The Pushers say web developers have reservations on the short bus.
	DigiNotar's getting taken over by the Dutch government...and rumor has it they deserved it? Hmm. Why all the hate?
	Kernel.org hosted a nasty rootkit, and it wasn't detected for 17 days. Did code kernel.org distributes get impacted, or didn't it? Why the weasel words?
	Stanford patient data is found to be available online for roughly a year. We're pretty sure that's not HIPAA-compliant, and so we discuss the difference between ignorance and stupidity.
	A University of Vermont web sites gets defaced after a month-old warning went unheeded. See? He told 'em so.

Discussion


	Getting tough with border routers by using hardening guides.
	We discuss whether it makes sense to filter transit traffic on the border router or not. Or is there a third option?
	Reputation filters, real-time black hole lists, DNS sinkholes, bogon filters: generally we like them, but maybe they're not always a good idea? Daniel sounds off.
	ISP DDoS mitigation services are here to help because they're big, and you're small.
	We talk through common firewall designs.
	NAT does not make us secure. It just breaks things. And look - Tom's twitching!
	Should you use private VLANs in a DMZ? Or is that more work than it's worth?
	Where do multiple DMZs make sense? What about multiple firewalls?
	Mrs. Y in a moment of frustrated despondency proclaims, "We've done network security to death. And it's not working."
	Tom breaks down the difference between intrusion detection and intrusion prevention.
	Some of the actions an IPS can take against detected threats: TCP resets, blackholing, rate shaping.
	Where you should you place an IDS versus an IPS?
	Isn't my firewall with built in IPS functionality good enough?
	The main evil encountered when deploying an IPS: false positives. Mrs. Y points out, "You drop one thing some VP thinks shouldn't have been dropped, and you're disabling everything."
	Are IPS signatures the crack cocaine of the security world?
	Are you staffed to properly maintain an IPS infrastructure, since it's not a "set it and forget it" appliance? This point gets hammered home with a vengeance.
	Using an IPS to help your applications survive an attack.
	Next-gen firewalls mash up L7 inspections with traditional firewall functions. How does this impact firewall performance?
	We swap war stories about implementing Check Point Smart Defense. We laugh, we cry, we twitch. And mostly, we turn it off.
	Daniel goes on a happy rant about Check Point's SmartView Tracker, while Mrs. Y sings the praises of syslog and Splunk. Ethan tries to strike a balance while vendor allegiance rears its ugly head. Poke, poke, poke.
	We wrap up with a quick reminder to assess the ability of security appliances themselves to withstand attacks.


LMGTFY (because we love you)


	Shady RAT
	PKI
	SSL extended validation
	uRPF
	CoPP
	Cisco ASR router &amp; the QuantumFlow processor
	DNS sinkholes (PDF)
	OpenDNS
	DNS-OARC
	Team Cymru
	Spamhaus
	MAPS RBL BGP
	Obtaining a BGP AS from ARIN
	SYN flood
	TCP intercept
	Level 3 Managed DDoS Protection Service
	DMZ
	Cisco private VLANs
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		<title>Show 60 – Introducing Infineta Hyper-Scale WAN Optimization</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/NiTn7vupvBs/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-60-introducing-infineta-hyper-scale-wan-optimization/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to introduce Infineta&amp;#8217;s Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry&amp;#8217;s first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN pipes as large as 10Gbps. Targeting customers who need to accelerate replication, backup traffic, Hadoop, and similar data sets [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/NiTn7vupvBs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>data mobility switch,haseeb budhani,infineta,wan optimization</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to introduce Infineta's Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry's first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN pipes as large as 1...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Haseeb Budhani, VP of Products at Infineta, chats with Greg and Ethan to introduce Infineta's Data Mobility Switch (DMS) in this sponsored show. The DMS is the industry's first Hyper-scale WAN optimization solution that can fill WAN pipes as large as 10Gbps. Targeting customers who need to accelerate replication, backup traffic, Hadoop, and similar data sets between data centers, Infineta is offering a solution that (as far as the Packet Pushers know) no one else is offering at this time. What used to take an array of WAN accelerators can now be handled by a single piece of hardware at each DC.

	Infineta is focused solely on Hyper-scale WANs - data center to data center traffic.
	Infineta starts where other WAN optimization vendors leave off. The smallest Infineta box accelerates multiple Gigabits per second.
	Merchant silicon is used (as opposed to x86 architecture) to allow deduplication of data streams at speeds up to 10Gbps.

We'll be publishing a deep-dive on the DMS in a later show, where we get nerdy about how the DMS does its magic.
Links
Data Mobility Switch (DMS) Overview
 @haseebbudhani</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>8:56</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 59 – Design Clinic 1 – Is This Virtual Whiteboard on ?</title>
		<link>http://feeds.packetpushers.net/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~3/QDs6lfKLajM/</link>
		<comments>http://packetpushers.net/show-59-design-clinic-1-is-this-virtual-whiteboard-on/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 13:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>packetpushers@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>About Design Clinics People send in their questions, we share them using an online meeting service and then use diagrams, open microphones, and lots of discussion to answer questions. We are still working out how to hold, run and manage the Design Clinic as show. This is our second, but the first to include screen [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/QDs6lfKLajM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>packet, pushers, Cisco, networking, bgp,mols,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Is This Virtual Whiteboard On ?</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Packet Pushers first Design Clinic where we take questions from the audience and try to work them out. We are working out the kinks in the show format so maybe this show isn't as good as we would like. We talk about VXLAN, VTP and it's consequences, and a Design Scenario from CJ.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<title>Show 58 – The Packet Speaks!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In show 58, recorded August 27, 2011, Ethan Banks is joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Erik Peterson, and Amy Arnold for the Packet Pushers&amp;#8217; first discussion about voice technology. Think of this as a foundational show that will ramp you up if you&amp;#8217;re a network engineer that doesn&amp;#8217;t deal with voice much beyond a QoS policy [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/V8YHf3rbP7M" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>cisco isr 819,codec,ipt,ipv6,packet pushers podcast,pbx,steve jobs,tdm,telephony,tim cook,voice,voip</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>In show 58, recorded August 27, 2011, Ethan Banks is joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Erik Peterson, and Amy Arnold for the Packet Pushers' first discussion about voice technology. Think of this as a foundational show that will ramp you up if you're a netw...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In show 58, recorded August 27, 2011, Ethan Banks is joined by Tom Hollingsworth, Erik Peterson, and Amy Arnold for the Packet Pushers' first discussion about voice technology. Think of this as a foundational show that will ramp you up if you're a network engineer that doesn't deal with voice much beyond a QoS policy tweak here and there.

I apologize in advance for any coughing/sniffling/clicking/crickets/hurricanes you notice. It seems this week's Skype upgrade broke my mute button, at least as related to my recording plug-in, so there's some environmental racket that wasn't possible for me to edit out in this show.
First - The News:

	Cisco's been talking up their Integrated Services Router 819, which they are tagging as a "machine to machine (M2M) gateway". In ruggedized form, the 819 can take a bunch of abuse. Don't try this at home, but definitely check out this video. Lots of fun.


	ComputerWorld talks about some IPv6 attacks that could ding you, even if you're not an IPv6 shop. Why?Because you probably are an IPv6 shop, even if you don't think you are.
	Steve Jobs leaves Apple, and Tim Cook takes the helm officially. We wish Steve extremely well with his health, and Tim incredible success in bringing us the next magical and revolutionary devices. Psst...hey, Tim - could you make the big MBP a little cheaper? Some of us have mortgages.

Discussion - The Packet Speaks!

	Voice - the redheaded stepchild of the networking world. Or is it? Why should network geeks pay attention to voice technology?
	Let's distinguish between voice and video.
	So I bought this fancy VoIP system for my business. I can dump my phone company now, right?
	How does a data T1 functionally differ from a voice T1?
	When I order a voice T1 from my provider, what am I actually ordering? We discuss CAS vs. PRI.
	Explain channelization of a voice T1 vs. a data T1...D-channels and B-channels, indeed.
	Why is planning for peak load so critical when deploying voice networks?
	What components take VoIP packets and turn them into TDM voice suitable for the plain old telephone system? We discuss gateways and DSPs.
	Do I have to terminate my voice T1 on a router? Or can I terminate it on a call manager system directly?
	What codecs should be used for what situations? G.711, G.729, and G.722 are discussed.
	Let's discuss vendor interoperability issues in the voice world. We mention a few religious discussions, proprietary vs. standard methodologies, and integrating a legacy PBX while migrating to a new VoIP system.
	The voice world is acronym heavy, but we take a stab a grouping them into signalling protocols and media protocols.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 57 – Fat Cast Free for All – Virtual Workbench</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The virtual workbench convened on August 9, 2011 with Greg Ferro, Ethan, Kurt Bales, Tom Hollingsworth, Josh O&amp;#8217;Brien, and Mrs. Y (aka the Network Security Princess). This week we cover news, views and gossip of the last few weeks. A lot of complaining and review of what&amp;#8217;s changing in the network industry. Discussion VMware licensing backdown after [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/2OJi40Tese4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>alcatel,blackhat,brocade,cisco,nexus,podcast,security,worklife</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Faffing and Flapping around the virtual workbench.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The virtual workbench convened on August 9, 2011 with Greg Ferro, Ethan, Kurt Bales, Tom Hollingsworth, Josh O'Brien, and Mrs. Y (aka the Network Security Princess).

This week we cover news, views and gossip of the last few weeks. A lot of complaining and review of what's changing in the network industry.
Discussion

	VMware licensing backdown after customers complained- VMware isn't as dominant as it may appear, and will you ever OWN anything ?
	Lack of networking features in vSphere 5
	Mrs Y gives us a rundown of Black Hat
	A mix of other random topics
	Cisco Nexus 2000 and working with FEX designs

Links
Odds and ends of items mentioned in the show...

	Jeff Fry's Blog on Future Nexus 7000 Line Cards (Sup2/ASA/NAM/WAN)
	The Register talks about the sales of Alcatel/Lucent Enterprise Business Unit
	The supposed OSPF vulnerability
	Symantec takes some potshots at Operation Shady Rat that was discovered by McAfee. We all agree that neither organisation is very credible - "virus protection" is synonymous with extortion and claming "he said/she said" is silly.
	http://cyberarms.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/researchers-break-military-chip-encryption-keys-using-nvidia-tesla-gpus/</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>74:00</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Show 56 – Securing an Internet-Facing App – Part 1 – Host Hardening</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An all-US cast gathers around the virtual whiteboard for a security discussion in Packet Pushers podcast show #56, recorded on August 1, 2011. Sysadmin, virtualization heavy, and blogger Bob Plankers joins Network Security Princess Mrs. Y, security industry veteran Daniel Powell, show regular and CCIE Tom Hollingsworth, and this week&amp;#8217;s host Ethan Banks to discuss host [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/IqvOHCpy0e0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>apache,blackhat,firewall,host hardening,networking,packet pushers podcast,scada,security</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>An all-US cast gathers around the virtual whiteboard for a security discussion in Packet Pushers podcast show #56, recorded on August 1, 2011. Sysadmin, virtualization heavy, and blogger Bob Plankers joins Network Security Princess Mrs. Y,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>An all-US cast gathers around the virtual whiteboard for a security discussion in Packet Pushers podcast show #56, recorded on August 1, 2011. Sysadmin, virtualization heavy, and blogger Bob Plankers joins Network Security Princess Mrs. Y, security industry veteran Daniel Powell, show regular and CCIE Tom Hollingsworth, and this week's host Ethan Banks to discuss host hardening in this first of a series on securing Internet-facing applications.
First, The News:

	VMware vSphere 5 has been released, with some networking enhancements.
	RSA breach cost EMC $66M in Q2.
	BlackHat wartexting brings up SCADA fears.
	Google Street View data is coughing up private information.
	Conficker found on Fission External 4-in-1 Hard Drive/DVD/USB/Card Reader sold at Australian supermarket chain ALDI
	Global analysis of 10 million web attacks reveals everything old is new again.

Then, The Discussion:


	Ancient attacks often still work.
	Each OS has a unique hardening strategy.
	Shutting down unneeded services is a best practice, but can impact other services.
	Host-based firewalls - boon or bane?
	Using a GUI to configure firewall services on a *NIX box is okay. We won't tell if you don't use vi.
	Can we distinguish a host-based firewall from a network firewall appliance?
	So...should we use both host-based firewalls and appliance firewalls at the same time?
	Separating system privileges by user and process.
	Security is no longer about one guy working by himself - that's a dead idea.
	How can you help an HTTP engine defend itself?
	Is it possible to break out of a chrooted jailcell?
	What impact to overall performance can host security add-ons cause?
	Moats, walls, and guns are great...unless you leave the back door open.
	Assuming our app will be broken into, what can we do ahead of time to keep damage to a minimum?
	Patching: protecting against potential harm.
	Detecting changes to hosts or applications using signatures and fingerprints.
	How do you handle the flood of logging events that's normal on any network?
	Centralized syslogging: there must be only one.
	How do you get back to normality once you've been pwned?
	Does it make sense to restore to a normal state via a VMware snapshot?


Links:


	The gummy bear method of defeating fingerprint readers
	Cisco ASA identity-based firewalling (PDF)
	mod_security
	F5 Networks Application Security Module
	Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP)
	Pen testing
	Mining memcached
	TripWire (open source flavor)
	Logging, escalation, and correlation tools: Splunk, LogLogic, ArcSight, OpenNMS, SolarWinds
	Puppet
	Chef</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 55 – Questions You Should Be Asking Your Cloud Provider</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show is #55, recorded on July 27, 2011 with Greg Ferro, Ethan Banks, Kim Pedersen, and Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess. We cover a bit of news, and then discuss the security and economic implications of outsourcing your applications to the cloud. Or&amp;#8230;the &amp;#8220;blah blah cloud&amp;#8221; as those of us worn out [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/6i-rcvXBODs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>blah-blah-cloud,cloud,cloud computing,cloud provider,ethan banks,greg ferro,kim pedersen,mrs. y,packet pushers,packet pushers podcast</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>This show is #55, recorded on July 27, 2011 with Greg Ferro, Ethan Banks, Kim Pedersen, and Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess. We cover a bit of news, and then discuss the security and economic implications of outsourcing your applications to th...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This show is #55, recorded on July 27, 2011 with Greg Ferro, Ethan Banks, Kim Pedersen, and Mrs. Y aka the Network Security Princess. We cover a bit of news, and then discuss the security and economic implications of outsourcing your applications to the cloud. Or...the "blah blah cloud" as those of us worn out by marketing hype like to think of it.
The News

	Dell buys Force 10. The applause is still ringing in our ears.
	Software switching keeps getting a lot of attention, and Greg gets a little ranty about finger placement &amp; corduroy.
	US-CERT director gives no reason for departure, but we have our suspicions.
	Apple releases Lion. Firewire vulnerabilities, battery bricks, and busted VPN clients, oh my!
	TSA pr0n parade gets a software whitewash. You're lookin' good in your pixel-y undies!

Discussion

	Defining the cloud. (Okay, at least we try to.)
	What sorts of functions can the cloud provide?
	How is cloud computing distinct from a colocation service?
	Is the cloud secure? ORLY?!? Tell us how...
	How is separation between cloud tenants done?
	How do you handle intellectual property theft by a cloud provider employee?
	If your cloud provider goes out of business, who owns your data? The cloud provider - or you?
	How long could your business last if you had to go to court to get your data back from your cloud provider?
	How do you write a contract to protect your business if your cloud provider has an extended outage?
	Can you control where your data geographically resides?
	How do you guarantee access from your network to your cloud provider?
	Once you've guaranteed access and performance, is outsourcing to the cloud still financially wise?
	When does it make sense to outsource to the cloud? When does it NOT make sense?
	What happens when a cloud fails? What is your recovery plan?
	Is it a smart idea to put mission-critical applications into the cloud?
	How do cloud providers contract SLAs for system failures?
	How do cloud providers replicate data between sites?
	What usage reporting does a cloud provider offer?
	How do you authenticate a cloud-based application against your local user database?
	How do you ensure compliance with regulations when your application is cloud-hosted?
	Is the cloud really just a poor man's data center?
	Okay - level set. Pros versus cons. The cloud is not all bad.

Links
Odds and ends of items mentioned in the show...

	Amazon EC2
	Palo Alto Networks
	VMware vShield
	Cloud Security Alliance
	BGP AS (definition)
	Cisco Unified Computing and Servers</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 54 – Speaking With a LISP Expert – Cisco’s Victor Moreno</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show was recorded on July 7, 2011 (the week before Cisco Live Las Vegas), where Greg and Ethan were joined by subject matter expert Victor Moreno of Cisco in a topical podcast about LISP, the Locator/ID Separation Protocol. QUESTIONS WE ASKED What is LISP? What problems are addressed by LISP? How does LISP impact [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/ZWmAMd2kGvw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>This show was recorded on July 7, 2011 (the week before Cisco Live Las Vegas), where Greg and Ethan were joined by subject matter expert Victor Moreno of Cisco in a topical podcast about LISP, the Locator/ID Separation Protocol. QUESTIONS WE ASKED - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This show was recorded on July 7, 2011 (the week before Cisco Live Las Vegas), where Greg and Ethan were joined by subject matter expert Victor Moreno of Cisco in a topical podcast about LISP, the Locator/ID Separation Protocol.
QUESTIONS WE ASKED

	What is LISP?
	What problems are addressed by LISP?
	How does LISP impact your existing core routing infrastructure?
	What's the difference between an RLOC and an EID?
	How does LISP help with device mobility?
	How does a packet get from one LISP site to another?
	LISP uses a (sort of) tunnel, so how much overhead is introduced?
	How does PMTUD work in a LISP environment?
	How does LISP help us with multihoming &amp; equal-cost load-balancing between sites?
	What are LISP's loop prevention &amp; route optimization mechanisms?
	Is there a way to apply routing policies to a LISP environment?
	Is LISP going to talk directly to devices like vCenter or OpenFlow controllers?
	Do all LISP routers maintain a synchronized routing table?
	Cisco has an inside joke that "the only way is the overlay." What's that mean?
	Are enterprises dependent on their ISPs if they'd like to leverage LISP?
	What are some applications for privately deployed LISP inside the data center?
	How does LISP detect when a host has moved from one domain to another?
	What is the RFC status of LISP?
	Would Cisco bet the data center on LISP?
	What Cisco platforms will LISP be supported on?
	Will LISP support highly dynamic environments where hosts move frequently?
	What is Cisco's reaction to informational RFC6115, Recommendation for a Routing Architecture?
	What security is baked into the current LISP iteration?

LINKS
Cisco's LISP Jump Page
lisp.cisco.com Overview Page
LISP Covered In The Internet Protocol Journal, Vol. 11, No. 1
IETF LISP Working Group Page
RFC6115, as well as Greg's comments on RFC6115
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		<title>Show 53 – CCIE Lab Preparation Tips – Persistence Pays Off</title>
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		<description>Getting Started This show is #53, and was recorded on July 12, 2011. In this show, Ethan Banks, Tom Hollingsworth, Greg Ferro, Kurt Bales, and Nicolas Michel talk about the process of preparing for Cisco&amp;#8217;s fabled CCIE lab exam. The show gets rolling with Tom checking in from CiscoLive and Ethan explaining how to set [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/PcP3lxfCP94" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Getting Started This show is #53, and was recorded on July 12, 2011. In this show, Ethan Banks, Tom Hollingsworth, Greg Ferro, Kurt Bales, and Nicolas Michel talk about the process of preparing for Cisco's fabled CCIE lab exam. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Getting Started
This show is #53, and was recorded on July 12, 2011. In this show, Ethan Banks, Tom Hollingsworth, Greg Ferro, Kurt Bales, and Nicolas Michel talk about the process of preparing for Cisco's fabled CCIE lab exam.

The show gets rolling with Tom checking in from CiscoLive and Ethan explaining how to set up a Cius (although a few of his details might be off). ;-)
The Main Event
The CCIE lab preparation discussion gets serious while the group shares their views on questions such as:

	How long did you prepare for the written exam? What about the lab?
	Did you rent a rack, use an emulator, or have your own equipment rack to practice with?
	Are there emulated switches these days?
	Are CCIE bootcamps really worthwhile?
	At what stage of your lab preparation would you most benefit from a bootcamp?
	Was the lab easier or harder than you expected?
	How challenging is the lab's troubleshooting section?
	During the lab, do you feel pressured by time to complete the assigned tasks?
	How do you cope with frustration or disappointment, both during preparation and the lab itself?
	What external resources do you draw upon to help prepare (forums, mailing lists, mentors, etc.)?
	How do you memorize obscure lists &amp; facts?
	Have your career opportunities improved now that you're a CCIE?
	Does passing the CCIE lab mean you've crossed the finish line?

Links


	Micronics Training (Narbik Kocharians)
	Internetwork Expert (Brian McGahan, Brian Dennis, Petr Lapukhov)
	IPExpert (Marko Milivojevic)
	Dynamips/Dynagen
	GNS3
	IOU
	GroupStudy Mailing List
	Mental Case - "The Study App"



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Tom Hollingsworth | http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | @networkingnerd

Greg Ferro | http://etherealmind.com| @etherealmind

Nicolas Michel | @mclnicolas

Kurt Bales | http://www.network-janitor.net | @networkjanitor

Ethan Banks |  http://packetattack.org | @ecbanks</itunes:summary>
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		<description>This week Tom is at Cisco Live and in a short sharp show, got a hold of Tony Mattke to talk about the conference and what their experiences are. Somewhere along the line, Tony told us some of his poor experiences with the Nexus 2000 and design tips for a Nexus-centric data centre. Greg is [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/c9DKnq2qDSM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Reporting from Cisco Live</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week Tom is at Cisco Live and in a short sharp show, got a hold of Tony Mattke to talk about the conference and what their experiences are. Somewhere along the line, Tony told us some of his poor experiences with the Nexus 2000 and design tips for a Nexus-centric data centre. 

Greg is still in the UK and wishing he was at Cisco Live to join in the fun - but alas, there is real work to be done. Still jealous though. 

Hosts
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Tony Mattkehttp://routerjockey.com  | Twitter: @tonhe
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Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind
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		<title>Show 51 – Juniper QFabric</title>
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		<description>The much anticipated show about Juniper QFabric has finally arrived. Juniper QFabric is a different approach to building a switched network core - using what I call "expanded backplane" concept -  to create a single Layer data centre switch fabric that uses a different approach from what we are used to by extending the backplane from a single switch to a multiswitch design.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/d2IjylMQgUQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>networking, juniper, qfabric, data, center, design, Ethernet, fabric</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Juniper QFabric - A Nerdy Chat on How It Works</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The much anticipated show about Juniper QFabric has finally arrived. Juniper QFabric is a different approach to building a switched network core - using what I call "expanded backplane" concept -  to create a single Layer data centre switch fabric that uses a different approach from what we are used to by extending the backplane from a single switch to a multiswitch design.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 50 – Collapsing Layers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show was recorded Thursday, 6/23/2011. Greg was away at Glastonbury, so joining Ethan on the mic are Kurt Bales, Jeff Fry, and Mrs. Y for a design-oriented discussion revolving around the emerging one-tier data center. First &amp;#8211; the news. New Zealand Herald 6/23/2011 &amp;#8211; Free service hides your online life from prying eyes &amp;#8211; [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/OUz4IQvaBrQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>This show was recorded Thursday, 6/23/2011. Greg was away at Glastonbury, so joining Ethan on the mic are Kurt Bales, Jeff Fry, and Mrs. Y for a design-oriented discussion revolving around the emerging one-tier data center. First - the news. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This show was recorded Thursday, 6/23/2011. Greg was away at Glastonbury, so joining Ethan on the mic are Kurt Bales, Jeff Fry, and Mrs. Y for a design-oriented discussion revolving around the emerging one-tier data center.
First - the news.

	New Zealand Herald 6/23/2011 - Free service hides your online life from prying eyes - "A free service launched yesterday called PrivateSky lets internet users shield email, Facebook updates, and other online exchanges from hackers or other unwanted snoops. The service from startup CertiVox comes as hackers appear to be rampaging through the internet, cracking defences at companies, attacking public websites, and tricking their way into email accounts to spy on contents."
	The Register 6/22/2011 - FBI fat-thumbs data centre raid - "A bungled FBI raid on a data centre has taken out an unknown number of Web sites. Apparently targeting a particular – but unnamed – customer of DigitalOne, the G-men seized three enclosures of equipment, according to the New York Times."
	ITNews.Com.AU 6/21/2011 - ASX takes network neutrality to new extremes - "Customers connected with exactly the same length of fibre. The Australian Stock Exchange (ASX) is promising mathematically consistent services to customers of its new $32 million data centre in Sydney's Gore Hill, even if that means rolling out hundreds of metres of excess fibre cabling."

Then - the "collapsing layers" discussion.
We're seeing the steady decline of the three-tier data center architecture. In fact, vendors are touting their new fabric solutions as single tier with any-to-any communication.

	What's a one-tier data center look like?
	Do we really have to kill spanning tree to evolve?
	What are the security implications in a data center where anyone can talk to anyone?
	We discuss and speculate about Juniper's QFabric.
	What are the challenges of converging your storage onto the fabric? (Don't miss Mrs. Y's definition of NFS!)
	Do we have to have a lossless single tier to safely run storage over a converged ethernet?
	If we could erase the whiteboard and design a brand new data center from scratch, what would it look like?

Listener Question
What are the pros and cons of running a single Cisco Catalyst 6513 for your entire infrastructure (including workstations)?
Hosts
Kurt Bales | http://www.network-janitor.net | @networkjanitor

Jeff Fry | http://www.fryguy.net | @fryguy_pa

Mrs. Y | our anonymous special guest

Ethan Banks |  http://packetattack.org | @ecbanks

Greg Ferro | http://etherealmind.com| @etherealmind</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Show 49 – Cisco Nexus 1000v</title>
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		<description>A show about Cisco Nexus 1000V where we poke and prod at some of it&amp;#8217;s inner workings. 1. Virtual Machine Networking &amp;#8211; the Nexus 1000V VEM data plane, port profiles, etc. VSM control plane (Nexus 1010) 2. Virtual Security Gateway (VSG) &amp;#8211; VM-level firewall for multi-tenant environments 3. VM-FEX &amp;#8211; 802.1Qbg/h comparison &amp;#8211; Virtual Machine [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/FU9gJ_7KcY4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Deep Diving on Cisco Nexus 1000</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>A show about Cisco Nexus 1000V where we poke and prod at some of it's inner workings.

1. Virtual Machine Networking - the Nexus 1000V     VEM data plane, port profiles, etc.     VSM control plane (Nexus 1010)

2. Virtual Security Gateway (VSG) - VM-level firewall for multi-tenant environments

3. VM-FEX - 802.1Qbg/h comparison - Virtual Machine - aware networking

add link to borg/big brother article on IOSHints http://www.ioshints.info/Data_Center_Fabric_Architectures
Q&amp;A
1. Why do we need a technology like VM-FEX? What’s the relation of VM-FEX to Adapter-FEX?

2. What’s the status of the standardization efforts?

3. HP is proposing VEPA? What’s different about what Cisco is doing?

4. Seems like there’s some proprietary stuff in VN-Link, maybe on the physical switch side? Is that the case? Can you elaborate?

5. VSG runs on vmware hypervisor. Why do we need VSG if vmware also offers vShield?

6. What about other virtual services beside firewall? Any plans for L4-7 stuff?

7. How do you get all this stuff provisioned and orchestrated in cloud environments?

IP QoS on NX1KV.

* Does it do policing or shaping on VM NICs? * How does that compare to what vSwitch is doing? * Will it get better queuing on pNIC … like ACL or QoS group classification mechanisms? * How about PFC/ETS support on pNIC (from Kurt Bales)

Ivan has blogged extensively about the 802.1Qbg / Qbh and VN-Tag in these three blog (and probably even more by now)

http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/05/edge-virtual-bridging-evb-8021qbg-eases.html http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/05/evb-8021qbg-s-component.html http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/06/vn-tag8021qbh-basics.html

and a good campfire story about N1K development: http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the_past_and_the_future_of_the_cisco_nexus_1000v/
Listener Questions
We took the following listeners questions - hopefully we answered them during the show.

 

Ian Castleman (with donation!!) : I have N5K's at top of rack, budget for N1KV's, VMWare in the blade chassis and a server team I can't convince to try UCS or HP so I'm stuck with the Dell dog awful M6220s in between them. My question for Cisco is can we still deploy the N1KVs and if so what functionality do I lose with a non Nexus "switch" in the middle. Question for you guys,any way you know of that I can get around having to have those Dell "switches" in the chassis? I'm not too familiar with the Dell range but the server guys tell me there are no pass through options that don't result in cabling explosions..

John McManus - who should manage the 1000v switch server engineers or network engineers

Matt Keller -  I'd like to know if Cisco plans to support other hypervisors such as Microsoft's HyperV.

Matt Norwood - So do you see a bunch of N1k clones from other vendors in the future
Hosts
Tom Hollingsworth Web: http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | Twitter: @NetworkingNerd

Name: Ivan Pepelnjak Web: http://blog.ioshints.info Twitter: @ioshints

Ethan Banks Web: http://packetattack.org | Twitter: @ecbanks

and last, and the very least:

Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind
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		<title>Show 48 – Juniper Junosphere</title>
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		<description>This week we talk to Juniper about their Junosphere emulator and make the case for why the current version is very good but not suited for the Enterprise market ( because its actually too good ) and question why they are charging a customer for the hosted service. junosphere, unlike other emulators, is a fully [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/lXZdIVijL6Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>juniper, junos, junosphere</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Juniper Junosphere</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we talk to Juniper about their Junosphere emulator and make the case for why the current version is very good but not suited for the Enterprise market ( because its actually too good ) and question why they are charging a customer for the hosted service. junosphere, unlike other emulators, is a fully detailed and accurate version that supports as many features as possible - it's the 'real deal' not a cut down version.

In return, Greg makes the case that the Enterprise does not need the features they are discussing or offering. The software needs to be available on a desktop, it needs to be free and freely available. If Juniper wants to get "into" the Enterprise, then give customers the software tools to prevent the "we don't do Junos" objection. Should Juniper should be looking at this as a growth opportunity and not as a profit opportunity ?
Hosts / Guests
Ashwin Kovummal, Product Manager for Junosphere, Juniper.

Dan Backman, JNCIE-ER #6 / JNCIE-MT #265 / JNCI, Solutions Architect / Product Marketing.
Topics
- What is Junosphere exactly?
- Where did it come from?
- What does it do / what problems is it intended to solve?
- What does Juniper think is unique about Junosphere?
- How do we expect people to use it?
- What users/environments is it targeted towards?

- What about Virtual Junos?
- VJX Series is a separate product that runs a virtual Junos image within Junosphere

Are there plans to offer a standalone version of Junosphere for proof of concept or change control testing?

Are there plans to offer Junosphere packages in less than 24 hour increments?

============

Handling hardware specific configuration e.g. QoS
How to buy / purchase order / pay ? Why should we pay, haven’t we paid enough already ?
Hosts
Tom Hollingsworth http://networkingnerd.wordpress.com | Twitter: @NetworkingNerd

Ethan Bankshttp://packetattack.org | Twitter: @ecbanks

and last, and the very least:

Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com| Twitter @etherealmind
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		<title>Show 47 – Load Balancers – Good Thing We Didn’t Step in It</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Value market versus Enterprise Market There is the load balancing market that most in networking are aware of, with vendors like Cisco and F5, and then there is the value market. Load balancers you can get for $2,500-$10,000 a piece (redundant coming in at around $5K to start, USD of course) that have many of [...]&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PacketPushersPodcast/~4/UfUcplMjaAE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description>
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			<itunes:keywords>load, balancers, application, delivery, controller,tcp, session, oneconnect, security, f5, cisco, ace, bigip, ltm, gtm,</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>Load Balancers or Application Delivery Controllers. Tomato or Tomato</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Load Balancers or Application Delivery Controllers are about improving the performance of our data centres. By allocating TCP session at the network layer, and combined with deep application awareness, we can improve our networks. We look at a range of issues, including Probes, Keepalives, DNS Global Load Balancing. Also looking at TCP Session termination as a performance and security methodology.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Packet Pushers Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>73:25</itunes:duration>
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